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From: myToast

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201535.5 in reply to 201535.1
Date: 11/5/2011 10:05:12 PM
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assume somebody enter the game tie 50-50
when he take the bench score @ 65-55
now if the player is on the leading team then he has a +10
while on the behind team, he has a -10


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From: G3C
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201535.7 in reply to 201535.5
Date: 11/5/2011 10:11:15 PM
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Thx, now I get it.

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201535.9 in reply to 201535.8
Date: 11/6/2011 8:25:01 AM
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It was kind of useful for me. For example in my recent league game I knew that when my 2 best big men were in the game, the opposing team only get +2 point difference... but when my subs came in we got blew out by 16-17! (And the subs were in for like 10~ mins in the game!) I guess I need better quality players as backup soon.

From: Wakes

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201535.10 in reply to 201535.8
Date: 11/6/2011 8:29:31 PM
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I think it's more a result of players experience and ratings rather than a factor. Player skills + matchup --> Ratings --> +/-

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201535.11 in reply to 201535.10
Date: 11/6/2011 9:24:49 PM
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I think it's more a result of players experience and ratings rather than a factor. Player skills + matchup --> Ratings --> +/-


mmmm i dont think so.
Its the 'Efficiency' rating as far as i understand it.

Which, im 99% sure is the point differential for a player when he is on the court. As explained in posts above.

They use this in the NBA as a measure of a players influence on the game.
However, in NBA a backup PG will spend more time with starters/other good players, when compared to BB. (In my personal experience)

So a backup PG in NBA probably has a season average of +2.5 whilst someone like Derrick Rose has a +/- of + 21.88 (dunno who his backup is, but Ronnie Brewer came off the bench last year, and his +/- was 6.06)

In BB, i find most of my backups do sub in with other backups (which is just due to my lineup settigns).... but this does mean, that if you had a season +/- average, it would probably be in the negative for a backup. just cause they are so crap in comparison :)

In fact, on buzzer-manager, this stat is available. Its called 'Efficiency '

Please someone correct me if im babbling.

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201535.12 in reply to 201535.11
Date: 11/6/2011 11:25:54 PM
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I don't quite think so. I believe the +/- is merely the point differential while the player is on the court.

The question I thought I was answering was whether +/- factors into the "rating" statistic, I'm merely suggesting that I think rating is more likely to project +/- than +/- projecting the rating.

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201535.13 in reply to 201535.12
Date: 11/7/2011 12:30:55 AM
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yep ill put my hand up to that one. I fully did not read the entire thread properly, so yer, my apologies on that one!



From: Koperboy

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201535.14 in reply to 201535.12
Date: 11/7/2011 3:55:29 AM
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I'm not sure, but somewhere a guy wrote about +/- in NBA showing player's ability to play defense. Of course +/- depends on team effort, but...

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