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I vote for neither, I wouldn't waste time training either of them if I were you.

The draft is coming up in a couple of weeks, even if you don't get a great prospect the market will be flooded with perennial all-star and superstar potential 18 year olds for cheap that you'll be able to train from scratch.

Yeah ok, but I bought him already... Marshall isn't really sellable either huh? So the estimation thing for players is really off? Since he is worth 200k occurring the estimation tool

no use it to ur advantage it will help you in the regular season to do rip-offs and steals, that's what I do actually......try to do it then list them for $1.

some guys actually said I would never sell guys at high prices, but they were wrong. I'm the Joker (from Bat Man) of the TL.

So basically the Estimation thing tries to estimate the value of your specific player by comparing him to the prices of players with "similar" skill sets. They do this by picking a few primary skills for your player (e.g. respectable JS) and then comparing that to 'recently sold' players who also have similar age/potential, with a similar level in that skill. However, this method has several flaws. For example, a well-rounded player will always be misjudged by the TPE, since the TPE is only comparing one or two primary skills. Secondaries will drive up the price considerably, but won't be evaluated by the TPE (imagine the difference in price between a center with 1 OD and 1 passing and one with 8OD an 8 passing). Also, it may compare the price of your player to a player sold at the beginning of the season. Your trainees right now have just about finished their 18yo season, making them essentially 19yos from a training standpoint, but the TPE is comparing them to 18yos fresh out of the draft with their whole 18yo season of training before them.

So those are two major ways a TPE can mis-evaluate a player, which is why most experienced managers consider it only a very rough guideline. In your specific case, the TPE is high because the players are 'old' 18yos but likely being compared to 'young' 18yos from the beginning of the season. Also, both players have poor secondaries (especially passing and IS on Marshall), which means that their true value is lower than some of the players they might be compared to. That's why the TPE is giving you a value that is too high for your player's current market worth. I hope this helps clear things up for you.

Also, it may compare the price of your player to a player sold at the beginning of the season.

Most of your post I agree with and has great information. The sentence above I take issue with - it doesn't look back as far as the start of the season. I don't know the exact time frame but I think it's definitely no more than a month and quite possibly just one week.

You're probably right, I just thought I remembered hearing that somewhere when I was reading about the usefulness (or lack thereof) of the TPE. That would make more sense anyway.

That's the beauty with this game, if you buy a player and don't like him you can turn around and sell him and use the $$$ on a player that you like better.

Don't get caught using that estimation tool to value players, it's a very general guide. I've seen players that are worth several times the value and the opposite. Look around the transfer wire for a bit and you'll see what players are sold for, that will help you gauge who's a value and who isn't. Also, if you're the only bid made on a player, chances are that you paid more than what that player was worth.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 8/4/2012 9:22:48 PM