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From: Trikster

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Date: 6/7/2013 8:14:19 PM
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From the mail I got from bbalin, I think the only difference is there is a "shared" section of the forum where all countries can share information if they want. The rest, I would think, is exactly the same as the current offsite forum.

From: mllama

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Date: 6/7/2013 8:16:57 PM
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Then I guess the question is are people more likely to use this one than the other one - the current forum we have is functionally pretty good. It is just that noone is using it at the moment.

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Date: 6/7/2013 9:40:03 PM
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That is the problem, no one is using the current offsite forum so will they use the new one? Probably not. Who knows, maybe the addition of other nations can "spice" up the activity in the offsite forums.

For me its the convenience, I'm too lazy to log into several forums to check and look for stuff when I can just find everything here on the BB forums/federations.

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Date: 6/7/2013 11:22:00 PM
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yup federations FTW!

In case anyone missed mine, 8 ppl to go!

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/fedoverview.aspx?fe...)

Manager of the Bahamas National Team!
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Date: 6/8/2013 6:51:04 AM
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Both our NT managers have been busy and not posted a lot recently. One of the keys for these roles is to engage the wider community. Real life gets in the way sometimes.
If this site is more reliable and has some other stuff going on I think it may be worth looking at. But we would not have all the history on the old forum. Unless someone moves it all over.

From: Mr J

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Date: 6/8/2013 10:45:24 PM
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From the mail I got from bbalin, I think the only difference is there is a "shared" section of the forum where all countries can share information if they want. The rest, I would think, is exactly the same as the current offsite forum.


This is not enough of a reason---in my opinion---to have it replace an offsite forum we already don't utilise; I just can't see the benefits being worth it imo...


From: Bballin
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Date: 6/10/2013 11:54:06 AM
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I see plenty of talk regarding that there is not enough difference or reason to switch. Now I have not seen Australias Offsite so I cannot say what we have that you dont, but I can quickly skim over it again.

We have Transfer Ads, a little less important now that player ads have been brought back on BB, but we have them.
There is a Looking to Buy section where people can post what they are looking for in hopes that someone else will be selling that.
There is also a Transfer estimate thread so people can get opinions on pricing from others.
There are training guides, tactical guides and research all being done.
Theres a wealth of foreign scouting at both the NT level and u21 level.
There is ample space for people to ask questions and get help for training or for their whole club in general.

We have two active nations in England and Canada, with people that are happy to join in on tactical discussions for any country. England and Canada have both seen success since the offsite, whether or not the offsite truly effected that remains to be seen however.

Sometimes a reason for NT managers to not post is because they rarely get responses. Ive seen that be the case. With many more people available there is more opportunity for response hopefully leading to higher activity for the NT manager and more activity from the rest of the community.

For me its the convenience, I'm too lazy to log into several forums to check and look for stuff when I can just find everything here on the BB forums/federations.


yup federations FTW!


Not everyone has supporter, can get supporter or are willing to get supporter, but still feel the need or want to contribute to NTs/U21s or be part of a community. BB forums provide zero privacy for things like tactics and roster skills. Federations limit the amount of people you have contributing. Both options are inefficient.

Having two tabs open at once is not a big deal. I try and link the offsite in as many places as possible. Its in my Forum signature and its on Canadas NT Press Release. One click and then a username and password that you can just keep the same as BB is not too difficult. You can even make it so that it keeps you logged in. Then whenever you are at your computer, or on your phone, you are literally a click away from everything.

Moving things over would not be too difficult and id even be willing to do it if it really becomes an issue.

Also something else to be weary of, we are looking at trying to integrate an Instant Messenger Chat on the offsite. So whenever you log in you can chat instantly with anyone else on the site.

Only five people have voted and I have alerted 7 managers plus 6 have posted in this thread, c'mon ;)

From: yodabig

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Date: 6/11/2013 8:03:05 AM
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I see nothing worng with this but whatever we use, the old offsite forums, this new one, or a Federatio the crucial thing is to get a critical mass of managers involved, so really I just what whatever will be the most popular.

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Date: 6/11/2013 8:06:57 AM
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This is true. In the end it will come down imo to what the NT and new 21 NT manager feel will be engage the community more.

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Date: 6/11/2013 8:35:25 AM
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My main feelings is if everything becomes a federation based what happens to the managers that don't pay supporter as they enjoy the fact it's free and don't have to pay to enjoy. Though I get the point that its hard for a lot of managers having to sign up for a site that's offsite and not on buzzerbeater website. A great fix would be another forum that the BB's implement that teams just from that nation can see that we have access and can be used for national and u21 teams.

But I doubt either of those will happen.

Australia NT coach. Join offsite forum for all things Australian http://forum.buzzerbeaterstats.com/
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242605.15 in reply to 242605.14
Date: 6/11/2013 8:42:13 AM
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I agree and it has been my position for some time and suggested it on the suggestions forum sometime ago. Will think its worth doing so again.
Both the NT and 21 NT side should have a sub forum run like a federation that only approved coaches from that country and join. This would be the best way to deal with it. But as you said it is not likely to happen and even if it did it would not be up and running quickly.