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Date: 8/11/2013 9:45:55 PM
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I think the game does a solid job spotting and locking out cheaters on club teams. As Perpete mentioned, I think it's nearly impossible to cheat long term and they become increasingly easy to spot in higher divisions where there are a lot more eyes on every team.

As for National Teams? Maybe you can be more specific on what types of cheating are taking place?


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Date: 8/12/2013 8:47:54 AM
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We will avoid to go naming teams, but I think farming with a second account to train/pay/sabotage players is the way to cheat for NT.


As a U21 manager for five seasons now, I can confirm that and it's frustrating, because I feel like a lot of U21 and NT managers are using the "If you can't beat them, join them" motto. Add in the politics of TIE and various other deals, and one can clearly see players don't matter anymore in national competitions. But if that was the BBs intent, I applaud to them since the current enviroment mirrors the reality completely (Farm teams = Performance enhanced drugs and NT deals = betting issues and deals under the table).

I'm also against having NT players in D.IV and D.V. Although perfectly legal, one would think LeBron's or Durant's skills would probably regress if he played in China's D.IV. It would make sense to make a rule that says "a team cannot buy a player with salary of 2xTV money".

Last edited by Koperboy at 8/12/2013 8:52:31 AM

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Date: 8/12/2013 8:57:13 AM
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We will avoid to go naming teams, but I think farming with a second account to train/pay/sabotage players is the way to cheat for NT.


As a U21 manager for five seasons now, I can confirm that and it's frustrating, because I feel like a lot of U21 and NT managers are using the "If you can't beat them, join them" motto. Add in the politics of TIE and various other deals, and one can clearly see players don't matter anymore in national competitions. But if that was the BBs intent, I applaud to them since the current enviroment mirrors the reality completely (Farm teams = Performance enhanced drugs and NT deals = betting issues and deals under the table).

I'm also against having NT players in D.IV and D.V. Although perfectly legal, one would think LeBron's or Durant's skills would probably regress if he played in China's D.IV. It would make sense to make a rule that says "a team cannot buy a player with salary of 2xTV money".


Amazing idea,you should post this in "suggestions".

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Date: 8/12/2013 10:54:11 AM
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It's not the TIE agreement that's the problem. It's breaking the TIE agreement to get an edge. Though the simple solution would be to ignore mutual TIE requests.

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Date: 8/12/2013 11:54:34 AM
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It would make sense to make a rule that says "a team cannot buy a player with salary of 2xTV money".


Good rule, it would also help eliminate all the bankruptcies that happen because new managers don't understand the economy of a huge salary.

That said, are the lower division teams really buying these players with huge salaries or are they training them from the ground up? I would guess that in almost every case it's the latter so permitting them from buying huge salaried players problem won't eliminate the exact problem you're intending it too.

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Of course it's possible to train a 250k player from ground up. But a low division team that trained a monster will either sell it or go bankrupt. In neither case a low division team will be able to buy that player.

So it will still be possible for low division teams to have high salaried players, but only trained ones. This would eliminate a lot of NT sabotaging and second accounts for purpose of buying domestic NT players.

GM-Perpete: When you see a D.V team that's been training U21 or NT players from their very beginning and never advancing to D.IV despite training exceptional players.... of course the team's manager could be one that left his original team and decided only to train players with his new team. I know it's hard to tell who cheats and who doesn't and that makes it only more frustrating.

Imagine there would be a sport drug that would be indiscoverable by drug tests. That's what's happening in BB right now.



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Date: 8/13/2013 6:32:16 AM
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I'm also against having NT players in D.IV and D.V. Although perfectly legal, one would think LeBron's or Durant's skills would probably regress if he played in China's D.IV. It would make sense to make a rule that says "a team cannot buy a player with salary of 2xTV money".

I don't like this suggestion. It wouldn't help anyway. You'd just have to buy the player before the new season and you could easily have a player with 200k in D.4. Because his salary is calculated in offseason, so he could have 130k in the old season but after the update he could have well over your suggested maximum.

I'm against punishing all the people because some cheat. There have to be other ways to stop cheaters.

NTs lose their best prospects all the time through free agency. It's just silly that NT-prospects are still being sold for less than 100k and fired after 1 or 2 games because their new owners would then have to pay their salary. Two things that should be changed:
- Make the new owners pay the salary the same minute they get the new players and
- if they cannot afford the salary just don't let them bid on the player.
This is the way it works e.g. in Hattrick.

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