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Riviera played 3 scrimmages for the Australian National Team, but missed out on being a regular in the National Team because the NT Manager at the time though his passing was too low.

Sully Tully played more games for Australia than what Riviera did and whilst he had better passing and a lot higher salary than what Riviera did, I will always believe that Riviera was the better player.

Over the seasons Riviera in the ABBL has gone head to head against the likes of Walker and Degas whos salaries were around twice what Rivieras was and in my eyes at least always broke even with them

Its not soooo bad if you think about it in the context of a combo guard, straddling the PG/SG line. Jr adds little to a pg salary, and passing nothing to a SG salary, so you can have a level of each for 10k combined at the levels you are talking about, which is reasonable.

To be honest, the real issue for me is the salary of OD. Should be as expensive as passing, which would stop people going with super od guards and maybe make outside tactics viable. But thats an issue for another thread...

I've been looking at this sort of stuff a lot lately as i am training bigs with passing. Looking like i will roll out a prod passing PG but then have Sensational or trem on my SG & SF and trem for PF and strong for my C.

Hoping that from a salary perspective it will make my team very efficient and not prone to turnovers and also make my bigs get decent shots without prohibitive salaries for my 2 guards

just FYI my numbers mentioned previously, were from a PG perspective only.

Just crunched some numbers on my bigs.

Just added 4 pops of Passing on my big man Driscoll, added $1k salary LOL

Another 4 pops... <$1k

so yer, i dont think salary will be a problem for your big men. Its probably a good thing to train from a big man perspective, because it trains faster the taller the player is. (which in IMO is wrong, but meh).

Yup. Plus it trains handling and driving reasonably quickly as well. Its a brilliant skill to train for a big.

I'm holding off doing passing training atm as I want to get a new big to train and give it to him from day one while I finish off my Gs. Give him heaps of passing is the way to go.

Yeah loving my bloke. Only 22. Just wish he was an aussie as he should be a very unique and I hope damaging PF

Jump Shot: proficient ↑ Jump Range: average
Outside Def.: awful Handling: prolific
Driving: sensational Passing: tremendous
Inside Shot: sensational Inside Def.: tremendous
Rebounding: wondrous Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: awful

Experience: awful

Shot Blocking: mediocre

breaks
my
heart

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To be honest, the real issue for me is the salary of OD. Should be as expensive as passing, which would stop people going with super od guards and maybe make outside tactics viable. But thats an issue for another thread...

I like the idea of outside tactics becoming more viable.

From my recollection the most perceived flaw in the game until recently was that a Look Inside offense was too dominant.

High OD IMO helps negate the dominance of Look Inside as it "upsets the passing", where as high passing helps favour LI.

My point is that if passing become cheaper or OD become more expensive then as a result LI would become even more dominant


Last edited by Sid Vicious at 8/27/2014 2:55:28 AM

LI/LP is still dominant. I don't think the GDP has really helped in this regard, aside from making people throw in a balanced tactic every now and then.

You are right that OD is useful against a team that plays inside. But is more useful against a team playing outside. Against a team with legendary outside defenders, any outside offense really doesn't stand a chance (unless they also made JR cheaper!) It is basically impossible to hit the 3 point shot with any sort of consistency against such a defense. A team with decent passing can still thread through a high end outside defense and make an inside tactic workable.

Given that OD is universally regarded as the most important skill for guards, its effect on salary should reflect that.

And I don't think passing should be cheaper ftr. It is rightfully expensive for a PG (because it is damned important for a PG) and rightfully pretty cheap for other positions.

If anything, I'd make OD more expensive, and JS/JR cheaper. Might tilt the balance back towards outside tactics a bit. But I should stop derailing the thread now ;)