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One game I play hides the talent level of players on the transfer market. So an owner could list a low talent player as a high talent player and the buyer wouldn't know until they win the bid. Imagine if this game hid the potenting level of players on the traflsfer list and an owner posted a bench warmer as an all-time great. That is a dishonest act.

I don't think what you are talking about is dishonest. Especially since injuries are random. What you might call injury prone, someone else might see as random.

I never said anything about this game in any fashion of being dishonest on player skill or injury .I said selling a player that's injured alot in your roster is very dishonest*. I asked do they hurt or hinder the player you have long term to reach his goal numbers.

That is my personal perspective opinion on it, showing how many injuries a player has had in his career is not hurting anything, its actually is helping you on the market. its a honest sell

The market needs gamesmanship transparency in honesty not blind faith on skills alone. Since you want to bring up that point of perspective. I don't think injury's are random, i think over training skills on aggressive players or too many minutes leads to injuries.

I never said anything about this game in any fashion of being dishonest on player skill or injury .I said selling a player that's injured alot in your roster is very dishonest*. I asked do they hurt or hinder the player you have long term to reach his goal numbers.

That is my personal perspective opinion on it, showing how many injuries a player has had in his career is not hurting anything, its actually is helping you on the market. its a honest sell

The market needs gamesmanship transparency in honesty not blind faith on skills alone. Since you want to bring up that point of perspective. I don't think injury's are random, i think over training skills on aggressive players or too many minutes leads to injuries.

Everything I've seen here leads me to believe that injuries are totally random. I have had foul-prone, aggressive players in the past and they had no more injuries than any other player on my team.

Dishonestly is actively lying about something. What you are calling dishonesty is simply not. I gave you an example of what would be actual dishonesty. Feel free to disagree.

Aggressive player injure and foul other player more, nothing random about it. there are alot well written reply opinions here by knowing managers. If a player can injure your player on ability such as aggression alone nothing really random about.

For example Nothing is random about rolling the dice, it called "chance". Chance is can be a ability skill i you know your in's and out about the circumstances or maximize them in your favor..

My opinion is again for example. If i know my player was hurt 7 times in 3 season and I sell for a demand of 1 mill. I'm being very dishonest with the buyer for not telling him so . Again I know the game does not do this type of disclosure.Again If i know the injury issues and don't say. Its still lying and being dishonest per say on the talent they are buying. So yes we will kindly disagree on the moral aspects here. Thank you for your reply.

Aggressive player injure and foul other player more, nothing random about it.

So if you look at a players stats you will see if they are foul prone. That 'in your opinion' suggests the said player is injury prone. There is the solution to your problem.

If i know my player was hurt 7 times in 3 season and I sell for a demand of 1 mill. I'm being very dishonest with the buyer for not telling him so . Again I know the game does not do this type of disclosure.Again If i know the injury issues and don't say. Its still lying and being dishonest per say on the talent they are buying.

If someone puts an injury prone player up for sale and someone asks if he's injury prone, that would be dishonest (while still being within the rules of the game). How can you be accused of lying and being dishonest if the question was never asked?

The buyers dictate what a player is worth. List an injury prone player for less and he'll probably sell for more due to the increased number of people committed to a bidding war. Are you saying that the seller should message everyone and tell them to stop bidding?

Last edited by Perriwinkle Blue at 10/26/2017 1:11:58 AM

No, you don't look at the stats, you look at the BB forums and read like I and many other have read such information. Are you suggesting the peers of the Forum. Posters such as BB ,Gms many Egm are lying about it? Is that what your saying.? Aggressive players injure themselves or others, they have the ability to do so. Nothing random about it from my reading its coded in game engine from my extensive reading.

The buyers don't dictate anything on BB, the BB game market rules do.

I don't think English is your 1st because your misconstruing everything I'm expressing here. Im not suggesting anything. I said its dishonest to sell a known injured player in you roster and it would have been nicer if BB had a listing of how many times the player was or has been injured in their career. Its my personal perspective opinion. Not a suggestion or a demand.

How you try to manipulate my opinion for your own point of view, like its a fact or suggestion of me by me,when it never was or could be. Is very somewhat "rude". I asked a question and stated my opinion not as a fact or demand but as a question/reply/ opinion in my view.

Last edited by john otters at 10/26/2017 8:53:17 PM

I've never seen an "aggressive" player injure himself, only others. And I've never seen a BB, GM, or EGM suggest that aggressive players injure themselves. I've never seen anyone suggest that actually, except for you in this thread. But I haven't done extensive reading on it so I can't say for certain.

I will say that logically it doesn't make much sense to me. And it does bring up another point for me, personally. I think that playing against aggressive players is what causes more fouls which leads to more chances for injuries to occur. So... how would that be the player who got injured's fault? How should that affect his market value at all? There is no such thing as an "injury prone player", imho, so there's no possibility for dishonesty in selling a player who has been injured.

Basically, no one thinks like you do about this, so no one can be dishonest about it. And even if you were to sell a player you thought was "injury prone" without offering a discount, thinking you were being dishonest, in the real world it has no effect because the thing you think you're being dishonest about doesn't exist.

My thoughts exactly. Said much more eloquently than I could.

No, you don't look at the stats, you look at the BB forums and read like I and many other have read such information. Are you suggesting the peers of the Forum. Posters such as BB ,Gms many Egm are lying about it? Is that what your saying.?

No. I was suggesting that if it is your opinion that fouls equal injuries, looking at the players stats will give you the evidence you need. I've had many foul prone players never be injured and some of my least aggressive players foul almost every season, but I'm not arguing your opinion. I'm pointing out that if you know that to be true, you have foul stats to see if a player is injury prone.

The buyers don't dictate anything on BB, the BB game market rules do.

No. The person/people bidding on a player dictate the price. If a player is listed at too high of a price, no one bids and the buyers force the player to be listed at a lower price to get a sale. Listing a valuable player at a rediculously low price intices more bidders, and more often than not drives the price well over market value. I don't know what market rules you speak of that tell someone what they must/must not bid on players...

I said its dishonest to sell a known injured player in you roster and it would have been nicer if BB had a listing of how many times the player was or has been injured in their career.

No. It's nothing remotely close to being 'dishonest'. Every single person has the right to sell an injury prone player just as everyone has the same chance of buying an injury prone player. Is it dishonest of Buzzerbeater to give you an injury prone draftee? No, it's just the luck of the draw. Is it then 'dishonest' for you to ever sell that draftee? By your definition, apparently it is and you're stuck with him regardless of his value on the transfer market.