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117670.50 in reply to 117670.49
Date: 11/6/2009 7:39:58 PM
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Unfortunately, given that the wage formula will change at the start of Season 11, I won't be able to track this.

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Date: 11/6/2009 9:52:19 PM
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theres no way of telling whether you are cap or not because we dont know how much age and height affect training speed by.

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Date: 11/6/2009 10:04:02 PM
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theres no way of telling whether you are cap or not because we dont know how much age and height affect training speed by.

Training will slow down at the cap, regardless of what the age/height is. Age and height will act in exactly the same way after potential capping has occurred.

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Date: 11/6/2009 10:10:07 PM
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so youre saying that as you get into higher level, the training slow automatically. example: training from strong -> prolific is slower than mediorce -> average?

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Date: 11/6/2009 10:16:27 PM
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so youre saying that as you get into higher level, the training slow automatically. example: training from strong -> prolific is slower than mediorce -> average?

No, I am not saying anything even remotely close to this.

Training is supposed to slow down relatively rapidly when the potential is reached, as opposed to the age effect, which is gradual over time, and height effect which is constant. Therefore, it's fairly easy to distinguish when a player hits t he cap.

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117670.55 in reply to 117670.54
Date: 11/7/2009 3:49:29 AM
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Hello everybody

Very interesting discussion! I have two players with the potential of a starter, one is a PG the other a SG. WIth what wage do they get capped? on the transfer list i found starters with a wage of 28'000, but the most are around 23k. The last starter I trained capped around the 20k's.

So i believe, there is no way that i can keep on training starters after this season.

Do you guys know a link where i can find information about the change for season 11 (wage formula) I hope, it will change the way, that i can keep on training my starters for one more season.

Best regards,

sgt_koriander

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117670.56 in reply to 117670.55
Date: 11/7/2009 8:42:41 AM
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Hi,

I have a SG capped at around 43k of salary, which is consistent with the data Leyendinha had provided.

My guess about potential caps its not about the salary but about a combination of primary skill level for every position.

My SG is lvl1 in rebounding, and thats is the reason, or my guess, why he is in the bottom of the interval. But most important he get capped, when the summ of his 3 primary skills for SG reach 40. I assume that primary skills for SG are JS, JR and OD.

Maybe the SF get capped at low salaries because the formula takes into account more primary skills than for a SG or a C.

Also in the case of PG, many of them or at least many that i have seen(before last changes), haven't a really high level of passing, making it possible to reach their cap with a higher salary than SF. Assuming that passing is a primary skill for PG.

Best regards,

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117670.57 in reply to 117670.56
Date: 11/7/2009 9:47:22 AM
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My guess about potential caps its not about the salary but about a combination of primary skill level for every position.

Salary is calculated as a combination of primary skill levels for every position...

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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117670.58 in reply to 117670.57
Date: 11/7/2009 9:57:40 AM
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Exactly,

But that's the point about Leyendinha table.
The different cap salary between positions are due to the different combination of primary skills and secondary skills, and maybe that causes this major salary cap differences for SF related to other positions.

But what I was trying to say is that the sof-cap is something like that:

Allstars: 40 in the summ of primary skills.
Perenniall Allstars: 45
Super Star: 50
MVP: 55
Hall of famer: 60
Legend: +60.

That's my guess.

Last edited by findreasons at 11/7/2009 9:59:24 AM

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117670.59 in reply to 117670.58
Date: 11/7/2009 10:33:45 AM
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I believe it works similarly but includes virtually all skills and is not position-dependent.

In my view it works as sum of skills with different weights for every skill. The thing about the SF is that for a player to be considered as SF he needs primarly jump shot and rebounds, skills that happens to be useful for virtually all positions. So, in the potential sum is very likely that RB and JS are two skills considered as primary(relative high weight), this would lead us to an scenario where players listed as SFs (because high JS and decent RB) reach the potential cap at lower salaries than others positions because some key skills happens to be also important for potential sum.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 11/9/2009 9:32:47 PM

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117670.60 in reply to 117670.58
Date: 11/7/2009 10:49:32 AM
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I don't agree with the existence of "major salary cap differences" to boot. To me, most of this comes as a result of the fact that SFs are pumped in JS like crazy, which obviously means a significant slowdown if you continue to attempt to pump up the JS -- and this slowdown is _not_ caused by the player being capped.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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