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To the few posters above, as much as we regret the troubles there's never a single cause for bankruptcy. The game, and the economy of the game, is that dynamic that you are fooling nobody but yourself when naming a single cause for going bankrupt.

We are still looking into this matter, though.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/24/2011 11:56:58 AM

Sorry, this is not true. In my situation, now, there would be only one cause. Give me the average incomes (or 80% of the averages) and i will survive without any problem.

It is true. In your specific situation, you spend almost 17 million on transfers over the last 1,5 month. And that's just since the start of december. That's quite some assets you have in your club. There is just never a single cause for bankruptcy, it may be one of the larger reasons for your financial troubles, but hey just selling off one of the 17M transfers and you're safe again.

In other cases teams seem to have 3 to 4 times the league average in staff salaries, or twice the average players salaries etc etc.

Really, an unexpected drop in revenues may be a large reason, but it can be just one of the many causes that influence your specific economy leading to bankruptcy.

I don't think it is fair that relegated teams (as mine) have around 50% of the STH league average.
Moreover, that does not seem to be a very realistic model.
I wonder where and when this change has been announced - I must have missed it.

I am not agree, Patrick ;).

Mi specific situation is this:

* I have been playing for 11 seasons without no economical trouble. I think that I have never been in negative situation.
* At the 13th season I decided to take a break. I was so busy in my real life and I needed a break. So I did.
* Then, I sold all my players at 0$ and I didn't compete in the 14th season. Obviously I went to II with only one victory in the last match.
* This last weeks in I division I have been buying a new roaster. I have done it after talking to II division managers and doing big calculations. I studied the probable new situation and I desinged a team for win money everyweek... Not too mutch, maybe 50K or something like this. Yes I spend 17 million... because I can. Because I have them. Because I spend them carefully, making a cheap roaster.
* The people in II win more than 250K per week in the matches and more than 55K in the shop. I need two matches for winning it and I win 33K in mi shop.

So, if I would have reasonable incomings I won't have no economic trouble. So, my hipothetical bankrupt only have a reason: I am not playing in the same conditions than the rest of the teams in my division. I am losing 145K per week because this unreasonable "rule".

So, basically you completely tanked your season giving 20 walkovers in the regular season and one in the Cup on your way to getting demoted - and you expect your fans to like you as much as the average div II team's fans. I hope you will avoid bankruptcy without too big sacrifices, but it does seem pretty reasonable that you have difficulty in filling the seats compared to your league mates who at least competed last season, even promoted.

Yes, as I said, I can understand some problems "filling my seats", I could see logical to stay something worse than the average... but I think that to have 35% of the amounts of the average is an unreasonable punishment.

it will be wrong to assume this situation as a feature as BBs have never talked about it.

I am not so sure about that one...

@somebody who knows: are the season ticket holders for promoted teams correct by now?

I played Premier League, where I had more than 4,000 season tickets holders. I went down to the second division, where I am now the holders of season tickets in 1300. Diameter of the second division is 2,500 season tickets holders.
Score Third League 1400 season tickets holders. I have season tickets holders of fewer than a third league


It is destroying the game.

The game must be fun and not angry.

Patrick, are this season ticket figures the final ones?

I find very low 3150 for first division...

Last edited by Kainan-Maki at 1/24/2011 10:59:37 PM