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Its slightly different when you consider the fact that I cant physically buy something in a different country without travelling there, therefor, it becomes more expensive... We pay for this online... ANYONE can buy it from ANY country, no extra cost for importing it or exporting it, no delivery cost, absolutely nothing...

Broaden your intellectual thicket, then argue, till then, hush!

That´s not what you´ve written though.

In a desert, water has another price and value than in the sea. You cannot leave out the buyer in the equation. The value for the buyer depends on his situation. Supply and demand obviously recognizes that.

The demand in -most- countries for the supplied goods at this price is almost none. So in those markets, price and value are in a disbalance. That´s quite easy economics which is quite valid even in the globalized internet concept.

And concerning your transportation and stuff thingy: plenty things you consume might be cheaper for you if you buy them over the internet from far away even if you add transportation cost et al. That´s for example the concept of the re-imported cars industry.

There is a fundamental flaw to this argument and that it is 2 separate markets. Sweden and Norway despite being close, has its own set of physical borders that restrict them to be seperate market to eachother. Price variance could very well be due to factors beyond traditional supply + demand in the form of government intervention like taxes, subsidies, etc

On the internet, it is 1 market. You can not segregate this as easily.There are no physical borders so what you pay is the one price that is charged. A classic example is online shopping. Many retail shops in Australia are losing lots and lots of sales because people realise they can buy the product from an American/European/Asian online retailer and have it delivered here at a price that is significantly cheaper than buying from the local shop. These online retailers can not discriminate against those buyers from a different country or they would lose a sale.


2 additional points to consider:

1. Yes there might be more people willing to buy supporter in the poorer countries if the price is cheaper, but on net terms does BB actually make more money? Just like your BB arena, does the reduction in prices result in so much more people buying that it increases profit? If not enough people buy, then they end up making less money instead. No one knows what the price elasticity of the supporter package is so to say simply that it WILL increase BB profit shows a lack of understanding of pricing.

2. The high end users will feel a lot more resentment towards the countries that can get it for cheaper. Just because I can afford to pay more for supporter does not mean I should. I know if this change happens, I will refuse to get supporter simply because I know will feel like I am am being "ripped off" cause other people can get it cheaper. I will probably say there will be others that will follow suit. So in this instance, BB's are also losing sales from their top end of the market as well.

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Thank you Monkeybiz, this is exactly what I was trying to get across.

There is a fundamental flaw to this argument and that it is 2 separate markets. Sweden and Norway despite being close, has its own set of physical borders that restrict them to be seperate market to eachother. Price variance could very well be due to factors beyond traditional supply + demand in the form of government intervention like taxes, subsidies, etc

On the internet, it is 1 market. You can not segregate this as easily.There are no physical borders so what you pay is the one price that is charged. A classic example is online shopping. Many retail shops in Australia are losing lots and lots of sales because people realise they can buy the product from an American/European/Asian online retailer and have it delivered here at a price that is significantly cheaper than buying from the local shop. These online retailers can not discriminate against those buyers from a different country or they would lose a sale.


2 additional points to consider:

1. Yes there might be more people willing to buy supporter in the poorer countries if the price is cheaper, but on net terms does BB actually make more money? Just like your BB arena, does the reduction in prices result in so much more people buying that it increases profit? If not enough people buy, then they end up making less money instead. No one knows what the price elasticity of the supporter package is so to say simply that it WILL increase BB profit shows a lack of understanding of pricing.

2. The high end users will feel a lot more resentment towards the countries that can get it for cheaper. Just because I can afford to pay more for supporter does not mean I should. I know if this change happens, I will refuse to get supporter simply because I know will feel like I am am being "ripped off" cause other people can get it cheaper. I will probably say there will be others that will follow suit. So in this instance, BB's are also losing sales from their top end of the market as well.

Thanks god, for a good post, because i had to read some posts that were really awfull(being polite).


This suggestion is cool to say it(make it cheaper so more people can have it etc), but it can have a negative impact and i'm pretty sure that if BB's know a little bit of economy they won't make the supporter package cheaper for some countrys.
I would agree if they make different packs of supporter, with different prices, but of course this packs can't have the same things, this is obvious ¡¡¡


Anyway with the global economic situation i do think it's better an unique supporter.


Just a quick example, about food.

Lot of brands lost money(huge amounts of money, like Nestle) on Spain because people preferred to pay white brands.

Brands like Nestle etc had to spend money on marketing where they say they don't sell their food to produce white brands in some products.








Last edited by Marot at 6/1/2011 9:06:39 PM

Its slightly different when you consider the fact that I cant physically buy something in a different country without travelling there, therefor, it becomes more expensive... We pay for this online... ANYONE can buy it from ANY country, no extra cost for importing it or exporting it, no delivery cost, absolutely nothing...

Broaden your intellectual thicket, then argue, till then, hush!

we germans buy for a while mp3 from an russian service, who got more selling rghts then wanted through a bad contract(they fight it if was abd i blelieve the media industirie wins) ...

But that is the same, you get mp3 very cheap in different country compared to germany(and most likely other rich countrys) but they ain't legal in your country when you buy them there.

But yes i sometimes order dvd from the "cheap" england, and thought about ordering an cheap pad from the USA which would be still cheaper with taxes. But you normally don't use it.

Edit: tahat was the internet too, one market too prices for all you itunes buyers ;)

Edit2: ok even in itunes you have different prices, but hey don't really sell their stuff through the internet, right ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/1/2011 9:17:11 PM

No need to be sarcastic, it doesn't make you sound any smarter.

You can buy a dvd from England, because you understand English... I can't buy a dvd in Germany (regardless of price), because I don't speak or understand enough of the language. This is a completely different arguement..

Whats being suggested is that 'poorer countries' pay less for supporter features.. Which is wrong... $40 is alot for most students, regardless of where they're from.. What about people out of work, can they get supporter free because they don't earn anything? Where does it stop?

I have an idea on how this can be discussed further... Find another online game that implements the ideas suggested here... I GUARANTEE you won't find one because too many people would just leave or stop paying.. Game devs are not stupid people, they know what they're doing, and I hope they know that implementing this would be more detrimental than beneficial...

As for the differing levels, that would work, but like what was said, there would have to be noticable differences between each package, and it would have to be fair for all.

To be honest I'm surprised at the number of people that have said something like,

"I'll stop buying supporter in protest because people from other countries might be able to get it cheaper."

That is simply silly. Firstly, it is "supporter" which means you are paying to support the game. The extra features are a bonus of you showing your support. Secondly, who cares if people from less fortunate countries get to pay a tiny bit less, it doesn't affect you in any way.

I come from a relatively wealthy country (Australia), and it is very easy to afford 12 dollars (or whatever it is) for 3 months. That is equivalent to 1 dollar a week. I'd find it hard to believe anyone in Australia playing this game who said they couldn't afford that (that are 18 years old or above). However, there are people in the world that come from less fortunate countries, where the average wage might only be 1 dollar a week, so asking them to spend 1 dollar a week for supporter is never going to allow them to become supporter.

Not everything is equal in all countries, and prices should be adjusted accordingly.

Last edited by Naker Virus at 6/2/2011 1:35:41 AM

No need to be sarcastic, it doesn't make you sound any smarter.

You can buy a dvd from England, because you understand English... I can't buy a dvd in Germany (regardless of price), because I don't speak or understand enough of the language. This is a completely different arguement..

99% of the german dvd have an english(original) language line, also some of the english Movie have the different language versions on it.

Whats being suggested is that 'poorer countries' pay less for supporter features.. Which is wrong... $40 is alot for most students, regardless of where they're from.. What about people out of work, can they get supporter free because they don't earn anything? Where does it stop?

but it is the difference, if it the sum you pay when you are one night out(and you pay it every halfyear), or the money you spend for your appartment. Thats why nearly all products, make differeence about the market. Like MP3 cost in russia ~20$ct, in most europe 0,99€ and in the USA 0,99$ - and they all sound the same and a sold through the internet ...

let's make an equal salary for equal work.
in Ukraine and former USSR countries, the doctor gets 300-500 dollars a month.
and in the U.S. physician receives 15000-50000 dollars a month.
Work is the same, and pay is different.
do you think we can afford to buy a Supporter?

System supporter in other basketball manager Charazay
Small - 100 CBMoney = 1 month supporter = 2€
Average - 300 CBMonay = 3 month supporter = 5€
Large - 600 CBMonay = 6 month supporter = 8€
Extra-Large 1300 CBMonay = 13 month supporter = 16€