BuzzerBeater Forums

BB Global (English) > What do you think of cross-training?

What do you think of cross-training?

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
00
191983.50 in reply to 191983.49
Date: 7/28/2011 8:11:21 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
272272
BC Hostivar on season 15?

This Post:
00
191983.51 in reply to 191983.50
Date: 7/28/2011 8:29:02 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
459459
Did he beat any behemoth teams?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
This Post:
00
191983.52 in reply to 191983.51
Date: 7/28/2011 8:33:23 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
he almost beat VS in semifinals without his starting PG... also his national team performs better than it should based on the payroll of players, and he's the manager.

Last edited by Koperboy at 7/28/2011 8:34:04 AM

This Post:
00
191983.53 in reply to 191983.52
Date: 7/28/2011 8:39:29 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
459459
that was season 16. How'd he do in season 15?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
This Post:
00
191983.54 in reply to 191983.48
Date: 7/28/2011 8:45:34 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
2323
I don't think the GE is flawed in that regard.


That's really how it should be. Jack of all trades type players are nothing more than niche players in the NBA, truly elite guys are spectacular in certain areas and not so great in others.

If a team has a C who is a monster with 20 IS and 20 RE and 20 ID, it would be inexplicable for his counterpart to outplay him just because he had better shooting range and was a better ball handler.

This Post:
00
191983.55 in reply to 191983.53
Date: 7/28/2011 8:45:46 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
952952
he won, but he didn't play against a team like VS. Well, at least not that good.

This Post:
00
191983.56 in reply to 191983.47
Date: 7/28/2011 8:58:31 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
173173
"3. Ask Mark Cuban about the value of older players. Older players are valuable because of their experience. Why should this be devalued?"

This is a point that I will never agree with. Not with Mark Cuban's but with the context you mention it. As a scout I have put a lot of effort in trying to organize training and involving as many players in our program as I can. The idea is that the team will always be better with self-trained players than buying older ones. Now, seeing that it is easier to make results by buying old players (because training is much slower) I think many teams in the lower divisions will chhose to buy, rather than train, and what is sad and sad and sad... They will be right...

This Post:
00
191983.57 in reply to 191983.36
Date: 7/28/2011 9:06:06 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
6060
Actually I changed my mind about cross-training. I don't like it that much anymore. I will tell you why.

I have a 20y old Superstar and I want him to play in NT. His potential is a bit low for NT, so I have to make a specialized player. In order to make that work, I have to choose which skill I don't want to train anymore, and I chose Passing (he's at Prolific already).
But in next two seasons of training it is possible that he pops in Passing anyway. This means that because of that pop in Passing, I have to give up at least 3 pops in DR and 2-3 in HA because Passing has a great effect potential wise. I don't want that! In this retrospective, my future trainees will all have to be Hall of Famers...not very good.

The best alternative I can think of is that we choose where should that 10% go to on weekly basis. Now THAT would be great. It doesn't matter if we can choose between limited number of options for secondary training; can you imagine you set OD training and as a secondary training you can choose DR+HA+SB or DR+HA+RB or SB+RB+HA?


Oh man, finally!

This Post:
00
191983.58 in reply to 191983.56
Date: 7/28/2011 9:45:45 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
459459
Fair enough.

The idea is that the team will always be better with self-trained players than buying older ones


I don't really understand what you mean. The NT is better with self-trained players? The NT doesn't train players. Your team is better with self-trained players? I don't think this is or ever has been the case. Surely people will still train players. You can't help but train players in this game.

Oh, and training isn't much slower, really. In fact, players will receive the same amount of training, just 10% less in much better primary skills and 10% more in other areas.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
This Post:
00
191983.59 in reply to 191983.58
Date: 7/28/2011 9:49:05 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
404404
Having their own players in the team help a lot merchandising,so yeah,a team is better with self-trained players(with equal skills) because is richer and can substain better players

This Post:
22
191983.60 in reply to 191983.58
Date: 7/28/2011 9:56:50 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
155155
I will just say this. If the BBs do not develop this game for the user base, it will die. I saw it happen to another online game that I played - where the developers made changes that they thought were good for the game. On the surface, they sounded like good ideas. Heck, they may have been wonderful ideas. But people hated them and left the game en masse. In the end, people get tired of changing strategies and adapting and eventually quit.

Remember the principle that the customer is always right. As someone else mentioned, people do not like change. Personally I think that if the developers wants to make changes like this, that they should explain them better and try to get end user buy in before they implement them. But that is just me.

In any event, I am very interested to see how this unfolds.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
Advertisement