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Well if BB is going into their demise let us raise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsHjvJ1aw40our glass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNcgXKFp7E

Last edited by Coach Lambini at 7/24/2014 8:42:01 AM

+1 chihorn

i actually remember my start up quite vividly.

Was 3-8, was too nooby and was like "Alright, how am I gonna win the ship here?"

Bought players, half read forums half didn't. Tried too hard for title.


So when you have a bad record and you get a team, I suspect most managesr are like "How can i make my team a contender NOW" and end up more vulnerable to blowing up all their starting cash.

If it's fresh out the draft, or having took over a tream with a winning record, things might be different. But that is my experience around 9 seasons ago.

+1 Excellent idea, Giannis I...







Well BB?

Last edited by Mr J at 7/25/2014 8:53:26 PM

We are going to have to do it individually on our own.

Yeah, the app will help.

But the nature of the game conspires against its mass consumption. This game is not designed to satisfy the masses's bowels and guts, something that you consume and it evaporates before you turn off the video console.

This game satisfies brains: its interface is simple, it's structure is complex, and you spend (or could spend) a lot of time inside the structure of the game, instead of the actual "thing" -the BKB game of the day- happening. Brains don't need 6GB of RAM or extreme pixelation to feel pleasure; guts and bowels do.

Now, in our hypermodern times, I wouldn't expect young and middle-aged people to sign up for a game and right off the bat understand they'll need a calendar year to be elite, and actually stay. And by elite I not only mean a 15k arena with a roster that pretty much equals or surpasses your tickets earnings, with long national cup runs, but I also mean -like somenone here said somewhere- scout opponents, study players assets and skills, and actually read and understand Josef Ka's workbooks and coeffs.

So forget it, I actually think 25k users -real, long term users- is pretty much a miracle in these days.

The app will help, undoubtely, but perhaps its benefits will have to do with only having less bots (or, if you want, more "human" bots, that is dudes with just a little more activity that a true bot, but not enough activity to actually be what we would call "regular users"; they would just avoid becoming bots), but that doesn't mean the players will be more engaged with the game.

Anyway, in any case, the app should be an improvement, however you look at it.

I don't know... just some thoughts...

+1 succinct

Y -like somenone here said somewhere- scout opponents, study players assets and skills, and actually read and understand Josef Ka's workbooks and coeffs.

Yeah...that was me. You have said what I've been thinking of late, enzomanya...that more users won't necessarily improve the experience. That less users, but more willing and engaged (and as a result, ultimately more experienced managers) would make the game more challenging, hence more enjoyable.

You have exposed my negative thinking it seems I had when I originally started this thread: that the decline in users was indicative perhaps of a dying game. But you're right...less users isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The old, "less is more" adage...

Well guys, I tend to agree.

I am 'older' and really joined the game because I wanted to find something that would keep my mind active, that required the user to have many plates spinning at the same time. This was by far the best option I could find.

I agree with all the points in the last two posts (and some beyond) and would like to add an observation of my own as well, Utopia; I think this was a great idea, as it fits into this discussion, what a great way to bring engaged and willing managers from all over the world and get them all interacting together almost without boarders?! genius! Here we are coming to the realisation that there is a declining number of users, but quite likely just a settling of critical mass, and then comes along an idea like Utopia.

I think if BB just continued to find ways that the passionate and engaged could regularly interact, then we would all be in for a great future.

This game is a long term management one and the thinkers will stay, gamers looking for a console style game are never going to be happy with the long term investment model that BB has it's foundations set in.

I think a move to a smart phone friendly version is a must, but not a highly visual console style of game change.

That is my 5c worth, and as I really hate typing, I will end it right here