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Really good read guys, good points by all...

Slightly off this topic but can someone stop these bloody illegal boats!

Disclaimer: Now im not comparing murderers or the scummiest of scum in jail to boat people because obviously a lot of those people have come from terrible situations or horrific backgrounds on those boats..

Ok so when you talk about the financial cost to the country keeping murderers and other scum alive for years on end, I would hate to think how much as a country we are spending on these boat people in detention who are trying to jump the queue! Because being soft is only encouraging more boats. We have an official process in place to let refugees and displaced individuals who need to escape and want to come to Australia. It's tough because there is fellow human beings involved but in my opinion anyone who tries to get in on a boat should never be allowed in, now or in the future as a deterrent. This will stop a majority of boats and then we can focus some of that money and put it into helping the real refugees and speed up the official immigration process in place to help them asap

Anyway just my thoughts after seeing another 500 boat people intercepted in the last 3 days.

Naker "The Dictator" Virus

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I understand your point, Naker, but comparing living beings to t-shirts is an unfair analogy. However, using your analogy (where the manager is the goverment, the factory society and the machine the prison system) you are, in effect, suggesting the prison system is at fault. I would disagree with that given that societal views and expectations and the laws we have in place have a greater impact on producing poor t-shirts ;-) Perhaps the analogy you have used isn't quite accurate but I see your point. However, I will say this: your analogy reinforces my previous point regarding the need for science to catchup in order for our laws to be more effective. The "best T-shirt making machine available" if we viewed this machine as the legal system, would be more accurate. Removing that 'reasonable doubt' through science would allow for corporal punishment to exist and function as it should.

As for the 7 yr old girl example, I would reluctantly accept the responsibility for future cancer-caused deaths as I would not sacrifice a single living spirit. Yes it's an emotional repsonse but we are emotional.

In the end, my friend, we will simply have to agree to disagree. :-)

In the end, my friend, we will simply have to agree to disagree. :-)

haha fair enough :)

And so what if some times an innocent person dies? Two words: collateral damage! No system is perfect, but at the end of the day if one innocent person dying means that the world is a better place overall, then that is an acceptable loss.

You're a fucking disgrace of a human being. I can't even begin to put into words just how ridiculous some of the dribble you post on here really is.

I'm not even going to argue with you. If you really believe any of the crap you post on here to be true, then you're an absolute fucking disgrace of a person. The world would be better off without oxygen thieves like you.

And so what if some times an innocent person dies? Two words: collateral damage! No system is perfect, but at the end of the day if one innocent person dying means that the world is a better place overall, then that is an acceptable loss.

You're a fucking disgrace of a human being. I can't even begin to put into words just how ridiculous some of the dribble you post on here really is.

I'm not even going to argue with you. If you really believe any of the crap you post on here to be true, then you're an absolute fucking disgrace of a person. The world would be better off without oxygen thieves like you.

Whoa! Steady on there, Matt. Naker is entitled to his opinions. There is definately no need for personal attacks like that, mate.

All good points you make regarding the death penalty and they pretty much sum up why I've never supported it. I think the biggest thing for me is the chance of an innocent person being put to death, especially when you here of cases where people are exonerated after being on death row (or worse, found to be innocent after being executed). I agree with you in saying I don't think I'd like to live in a society where that could happen.

It's cases like Jill's that start to confuse my thoughts on the death penalty. I think it might've hit home because I can relate to their circumstances (a couple of years younger, engaged, etc), but I just can't get past how awful the husband would be feeling right now. If that happened to me, I don't know that I would ever get over it.

I think you can only discuss the death penalty in cases that you have no connection too. I think if this happened to a family member or someone close to you, it would be much more difficult to argue against the death penalty. So from a neutral position, I agree with everything you said and oppose it too. If it happened to someone close to me however, I'd want to pull the trigger myself.

That's gone way past an 'opinion'. If someone is going to post absolute crap like that, I reserve the right to tell him that he's disgrace.

Naker isn't allowed an opinion because he's not in ABBL. Didn't you read the ABBL forum a few weeks back :-p jks

Naker isn't allowed an opinion because he's not in ABBL. Didn't you read the ABBL forum a few weeks back :-p jks

Clearly he missed the memo! ;-) anyways, he will be back there before you know it...old farts and all! lol

@ as for your boat people post, totally agree. Until we take a harder approach, the boats will continue to arrive. And yes, my initial thoughts are with the families on board, but that is quickly replaced with my disgust for the vultures who create false hope in those who have only hope.