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381.507 in reply to 381.506
Date: 4/25/2008 2:18:22 PM
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If I get it right you have no player that has poped twice on the same ability. In other words all pops you have experienced could have been from an already high level, thus it does not tell that much. The interesting thing is to see how much time it takes between the first and second pop.

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Date: 4/25/2008 2:35:50 PM
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He jumped in Passing only once... Other two were pops in Handling, when I was training Passing...

I follow training strictly and these are correct numbers...

I think OD can be easily explained... BBs said that, if player has one important Skill much lower then other, that Skill will train a lot faster... His other Skills were far better then OD, and I think that's the reason he had 4 pops in 5 trainings... Other players had 3 or 2 pops, which is also pretty good...

And for JS I'm pretty sure... Just look to Miško's training, and you'll see how much he improved, and I trained JS only once...

One on One for Guards is the fastest training I know, and I'll say it looks like this:

DV: 2 weeks
HN: 2-3 weeks
JS:: 2-3 weeks

Maybe it's a little bit slower now since they reduced training speed a couple of weeks ago...

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Date: 4/25/2008 2:49:45 PM
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If I get it right you have no player that has poped twice on the same ability. In other words all pops you have experienced could have been from an already high level, thus it does not tell that much. The interesting thing is to see how much time it takes between the first and second pop.


How don't you see... He had 5 players popped twice in Driving, and he had 10, 9, 9 and 8 pops in these 4 weeks... Pretty much for Team training... 36 pops in 4 weeks... And Driving is pretty important Skill, it leads to many easy lay-ups and dunks... I think for the attack, One on One is best training you can choose...

Last edited by Bevzil at 4/25/2008 2:52:30 PM

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Date: 4/25/2008 2:54:44 PM
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Sorry I missed that, so drivng seems to train prety fast indeed. I dont know how I missed that. Might be the beer.

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Date: 4/25/2008 3:15:13 PM
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Hmm ok about the passing, but I still can't imagina the OD.
Is it right that I count 19 pops?

Imo 19 pops in 22 weeks for a 20 yo player is a lot. If this information is right BB should really fix something at the training of guards, because that's going way too fast then.

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Date: 4/25/2008 3:17:57 PM
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of course, but still..

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Date: 4/25/2008 3:37:22 PM
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Well, guards need 6 Skills, centers 4... Therefor, training should be faster... But he's my best trainee, I have others that's not that fast... I'll post my rookie 19 year old SG now from his Week 1...

Week 1, One on One, HN - inept
Week 2, Pressure, OD - strong
Week 3, Outside Shooting, JR - respectable
Week 4, One on One, no pops
Week 5, One on One, JS - respectable, DV - strong
Week 6, Outside Shooting, no pops
Week 7, Passing, no pops
Week 8, One on One, no pops
Week 9, Pressure, no pops
Week 10, One on One, JS - strong, HN - mediocre, DV - proficient
Week 11, Passing, PS - mediocre
Week 12, Pressure, OD - proficient, ID - inept

Note: I didn't put that last week of Pressure in Miško's training cause he's been injured...

So, he had 11 pops in 12 Weeks :) Even better percentage... He had no pops in 4 consecutive weeks, and he still has almost pop per week...

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Date: 4/25/2008 3:56:31 PM
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Well, guards need 6 Skills, centers 4...


This is the biggest myth in game imo. (Mainly said by guards trainers though).


But apart from that, lets say the player who popped 19 times in 22 weeks was 18yo, ceteris paribus.

I would guess he would have popped around 26 times in 22 weeks then, insane amount of pops. This might mean that it's possible to create a guard with 4 times prolific (4x +4) and 2 times sensational (2x +5) in 22 weeks.
I'd be happy if a got a 3x sensational center in 22 weeks.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 4/25/2008 3:58:58 PM

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