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200205.51 in reply to 200205.50
Date: 11/6/2011 8:08:17 AM
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I would guess you're underestimating the importance of OD and flow at this level if you think you had a slight edge in that one.

But yeah, I'd at least think it should have been closer given the ratings.

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200205.52 in reply to 200205.51
Date: 11/6/2011 8:47:01 AM
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Not sure what you mean about OD considering I had his outside attacks covered, as well as his inside attacks..

My saying I had the slight edge is going off of pp100, where it shows I should've had 90.8 to their 88.8. Considering that and ratings are calculated through our player ratings and tactics, its the only thing we really have to go off of, so I wouldn't say I'm underestimating anything.

That said, I figured it would be close and most likely a tossup. I'm just baffled at how it was a blowout.

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200205.53 in reply to 200205.52
Date: 11/6/2011 9:54:16 AM
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Oh, I'm not disagreeing. In fact, by pp100 it really was even more in your favor than that since your best guys were the ones your tactic should have been favoring.

But on the team ratings, I was just comparing your defense to his. Comparing offense to defense ratings is tricky, because I don't really think they're perfectly scaled. Back when I looked into this a bunch of seasons ago, it looked like if you were going to compare them the best comparison was OS / (PD-2) and IS / (ID-0.5), or something like that. So a 7 OS vs 7 PD matchup favors the offense much more than a 7 IS vs 7 ID one. Or put another way, you need much more OD to stop an outside attack, than ID to stop an inside attack.

But I definitely agree... being -28 in the first half is baffling.

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200205.54 in reply to 200205.52
Date: 11/6/2011 10:42:40 AM
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I'm just baffled at how it was a blowout.


have to take into account banger's lower team/matchup ratings as it was blowout and backups were in the entire 4th quarter. in fact, your dominance in the 4th confirms how much weaker sharon's 4th quarter players are.

add the intangibles (blocked shots, rebounding, turnovers) in chitown's favor and i dont think this result is much of a mystery.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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200205.55 in reply to 200205.54
Date: 11/6/2011 10:58:35 AM
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Most of their backups aren't that bad. In fact, in their PL game 2 days earlier, they played the same starters with more regular minutes and their ratings were slightly lower.

I've added the intangibles. Including his large lead in rebounding despite lower rebounding. It's still a mystery ;)

But I get it, I'll stop venting before I become the token complainer :p

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200205.58 in reply to 200205.55
Date: 11/6/2011 12:04:42 PM
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Most of their backups aren't that bad.


starters -> backups in salary

pg: 73k -> 45k
sg: 100k -> 35k
sf: 35k -> 3k
pf: 135k -> 15k
c: 120 -> 100k

pretty significant downgrade at most positions there

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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200205.59 in reply to 200205.58
Date: 11/6/2011 12:53:38 PM
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Hence me saying the word most. And I'm still not sure I understand your point. The pp100 factors in everyones skills and minutes, does it not? So everything being as it is, my being down 33 at one point still seems laughable.

And the offensive flow, I realize it's usefulness...PG is on the top of the 'To Improve' list.

It's just funny, if I had been the one who won big and been up by over 30 and they were on here complaining, I'm sure you'd be saying their inside defense was too low against my much stronger attack and their lower rebounding gave me lots of easy put backs, add that with their attacks being covered by my defense and 'I don't think that result is much of a mystery.' ;)

Its always much easier to justify a game with close ratings after you know who's won it ;)

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200205.60 in reply to 200205.59
Date: 11/6/2011 1:26:43 PM
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Keep in mind that if a team takes significantly more shots than the other, then they don't need to be as efficient (PP100S) as the other team to win.


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200205.61 in reply to 200205.59
Date: 11/6/2011 1:29:20 PM
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Hey! Its my job to complain around here! No one is going to out complain me!

Ricky Logsdon is the reason for everything wrong in BB and he sucks so hard he probably is the reason you lost your game. Bla bla some more complaints about my arena bla bla my team plays no defense, bla bla too much fouling, bla bla cup is too long etc etc. Coco am I forgetting anything?

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