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In case you haven't guessed, I am a Phyr supporter. I have not participated extensively in U21 discussions (more of a lurker than a commenter) but I have read many of the discussions and I have seen the tremendous amount of thought and work he has personally put in, as well as being receptive to the suggestions of others.

Let's be real, if we had won the Finals game we are not even questioning Phyr's credentials here. But since we didn't (and since France's excellent tactics make it look like we lost because Phyr got outsmarted) then that has opened the door for other people to campaign saying that we're giving Phyr a pass because of his reputation with the offsite people, who are the most likely to vote, and effort rather than because he's actually a good manager. People are making this out to be some big conspiracy, where the offsite picks who it wants rather than the actual best candidate and then votes them into office. Let's put that notion to rest.

We don't win the games we win if we don't have managers tracking skills of opposing teams, analyzing minutes played by opposing players, analyzing tactics used by opponent and lineups/player positions in each tactic. That's a tremendous amount of work that is only possible if you have multiple people who know what they are doing and are committed to helping the team win, which you really only have on the offsite. We don't even get near the finals with the team we had last season if we don't pick our tactics virtually perfectly up until the finals. We pick the tactics we pick because we have experienced managers endlessly debating the merits of each possible tactical combination, and their combined wisdom has led to extraordinary success. And finally, no matter how great the offsite community may or may not be, we don't win if we don't have the right manager to make and execute the difficult decisions. Rejecting the advantages offered by the offsite's community of support and rejecting the candidate who has proven he can utilize these advantages to their greatest extent--because he didn't win a world championship, the slacker--would be simply absurd.

Say what you want about the Finals game. First of all, that was a collective decision by the group, not Phyr's sole responsibility. We've had undeniable success as an offsite community so we're not going to deny our (basically isolated) moment of failure. Second, the decision was undermined when our decoy callup who was selected for his high DMI was listed on the TL by his manager after being called up, revealing his relatively poor skills and exposing our deception to France, arguably giving them the confidence to double down on LI GDP guess. Had he not been listed on the TL (outside of Phyr's control) France has to respect an outside guess. Third, France took an incredible risk and hit the jackpot. This is a credit to their bravery and decision-making more than it is a criticism of ours. Just because your opponent gets lucky doesn't mean it was a bad decision. So if that's the only strike you have against Phyr, I think you need to keep looking.

Let's be real, if we had won the Finals game we are not even questioning Phyr's credentials here. But since we didn't (and since France's excellent tactics make it look like we lost because Phyr got outsmarted) then that has opened the door for other people to campaign saying that we're giving Phyr a pass because of his reputation with the offsite people, who are the most likely to vote, and effort rather than because he's actually a good manager. People are making this out to be some big conspiracy, where the offsite picks who it wants rather than the actual best candidate and then votes them into office. Let's put that notion to rest.

But we lost Ken.

We don't win the games we win if we don't have managers tracking skills of opposing teams, analyzing minutes played by opposing players, analyzing tactics used by opponent and lineups/player positions in each tactic. That's a tremendous amount of work that is only possible if you have multiple people who know what they are doing and are committed to helping the team win, which you really only have on the offsite. We don't even get near the finals with the team we had last season if we don't pick our tactics virtually perfectly up until the finals. We pick the tactics we pick because we have experienced managers endlessly debating the merits of each possible tactical combination, and their combined wisdom has led to extraordinary success. And finally, no matter how great the offsite community may or may not be, we don't win if we don't have the right manager to make and execute the difficult decisions. Rejecting the advantages offered by the offsite's community of support and rejecting the candidate who has proven he can utilize these advantages to their greatest extent--because he didn't win a world championship, the slacker--would be simply absurd.

All of these exhausting advantages and still silver?

Not really smart enough to see that I am calling your logic hypocritical. Please tell us your glorious plan GODCUB. The American people deserve to hear what you have to say. I would love to see you post something that is about you and not about me. I think you have a crush on me [ <3]

You've got it all wrong sport. I admire winners.

Thanks for proving my point! One day you may find out how hard it is to manage a U21 finals game.

Last edited by Phyr at 8/6/2015 5:08:56 PM

Took you 15 seasons to make DII. I did it in 9.

Last edited by Phyr at 8/6/2015 5:13:46 PM

Took you 15 seasons to make DII. I did it in 9.

And without doubt this is a much different game now than say it was in season16.

Still waiting for your U21 plan.

The only knock against Phyr is that we lost the Finals basically because France's GDP tactics were better than ours. As manager Phyr takes the blame for that, rightly or wrongly. If you're one of the people who questions Phyr's competency because of that one incident, you should respect mine all the more. You can check the offsite's thread if you're a USA manager and see that I publicly campaigned for a last-minute switch to a neutral offense after our decoy was revealed. Most managers agree we very probably win had we run a neutral offense like II instead of LI. So if Phyr's decision-making is suspect because he made the wrong decision, it logically follows that my decision-making must be that much more brilliant because I made the right decision against the collective input of the group. Either way, with the strength of the offsite on our side, if the only concern people have is the France game then one of us must necessarily be the most qualified candidate. I really don't care which of us you vote for but there is no logical reason not to vote for one of us.

-- Quote from Ken's campaign speech

So Ken you were not able to take leadership of the group and persuade them into what you believed to be right? I wish you did Ken, I really do.