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308940.52 in reply to 308940.49
Date: 4/4/2021 11:39:31 AM
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yes, if you're not training you can play a 9-12 men roster and do well in the regular season, only to lose to a stronger 5-men team in the playoffs

Exactly.

Given the same sum of salaries, a team of 8 players should do better in a game than a team of 5 players.
Until now, the opposite happens.

This is the key of the problem, and it has nothing to do with adding more games to the schedule.

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308940.56 in reply to 308940.51
Date: 4/4/2021 2:14:32 PM
Le Cotiche
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A good manager is currently able to win 3 real games/week with 7-8 good players + 2 correct ones (salary around 10k), because he knows that his opponents have to make decisions too. It's the difference between the managers who win trophies and the other ones. Everybody here supposed they will have to play 3 times against the best possible opponent but since everybody will be in the same situation that won't be the case.


you can do it because you're in the top league of your country so on thursday you're likely to play an easy opponent
lower leagues players mostly play in the cup until they lose, knowing this will happen anyway sooner or later

and IMO nobody should be able to consistently win 3 league games/week against competent opponents, the current economy+game shape system doesn't allow it (excluding former tankers who are speding their bank to play on a massive deficit, which i hope we agree shouldn't be encouraged)


What I love in this game is to have to deal, at the same time, with training and games to win. Can I win 3 games this week, yes or no? If yes against which team I can take risk, against who I'm sure to face his best team, who will give up... ? If I can't win all the games, which game I give up? Which team could give up too? Currently that kind of situation happens 2, maybe 3 times by season and only in top leagues. It's the best part of this game and during a 14 weeks season, it's not enough.


this seems a lot like a lottery: your success depends on how many people choose to play seriously against you
that's also what many players cited as the main reason for not having fun playing in Italy's Serie A years ago

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308940.58 in reply to 308940.57
Date: 4/4/2021 3:44:07 PM
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What works in small countries not always work in big ones.

Any manager that got to div.1 Italy or Spain a couple times is a better manager than any of you two.

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308940.59 in reply to 308940.58
Date: 4/4/2021 3:47:18 PM
Optic Fibres
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Some of the nonsense you come out with is hysterical.

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308940.60 in reply to 308940.57
Date: 4/4/2021 4:33:07 PM
Le Cotiche
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No idea why you keep explaining yourself here as both of them do not show any understending of the game and how to do well in it


correct. i'm not interested in doing well (if by that you mean getting into BBB), but i'm interested in having fun

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308940.61 in reply to 308940.35
Date: 4/4/2021 5:28:55 PM
Kira Kira Koseki
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Here's my opinion on the idea of having 3 league games per week but keeping game shape the same. IT SUCKS.

Game shape works right now because managers have the freedom to start their best five players in every league game, but also have to choose between doing that and going after the cup once the bot bashing phase is over. But despite 3 league games potentially adding strategic depth in roster building, I just don't see it as being a fun experience for most players. It would turn star players into more of a burden than a benefit, because you're stuck with their salary and can't even use them much more than your end of bench players. And what's the point of discouraging training up your own stars even further than the HatTrick inspired training system already does?

Much better to ditch game shape for a fatigue system if we do go down the route of having 3 league games. That way you can still play your better players more than your weaker ones, and there would be some level of load management without it being ridiculous.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 4/4/2021 5:40:03 PM

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