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93604.51 in reply to 93604.50
Date: 6/4/2009 12:56:30 AM
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I see a fairly direct relation between the number of users in a country and the relative strength of its teams. For example, the newest promoted team in Japan d.1 has an average salary of $5000. The newest promoted team in Italy d.1 has an average salary of over $30,000. Not that average salary is the best or only method of defining quality, but it is a start and the suggested method in the game rules for determining which players should play.

I think the reason for this change is to help the better teams from bigger countries compete with the better teams from countries with little or no competition. Because a country has one or two or four good teams doesn't mean it should have a similar revenue stream as a country with 50 or 60 or 100 good teams.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 6/4/2009 12:59:11 AM

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93604.52 in reply to 93604.51
Date: 6/4/2009 3:33:44 AM
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that new changes advertisement in front page is wrong, when i read it, i think BB`s are making mistake, because fans do want go to arena to watch games, not sit at TV.

those people who choose TV instead of being in arena are not fans, they are just people who are looking for another reason to drink beer :P

p.s.
will be there more than 3 TV games in season?

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93604.53 in reply to 93604.52
Date: 6/4/2009 3:42:38 AM
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You can drink beer at games too ;)

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93604.54 in reply to 93604.53
Date: 6/4/2009 4:28:02 AM
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i know, but TV watchers are just beer drinkers, if they prefer TV more than arena.
these are not fans that now are running from arena to HD TV.
i am saying only the advertisement is wrong :)

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93604.55 in reply to 93604.54
Date: 6/4/2009 4:31:30 AM
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I take my family of four to see a game. Even if we sit in the bleachers which are $16 a piece that's 64 bucks, not to mention red ropes, foam fingers, and a couple Manuel Solson jerseys. TV is looking more and more atractive.

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93604.56 in reply to 93604.55
Date: 6/4/2009 4:55:29 AM
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i am talking about fans, not family trips (there are not many families where all people like sport, especially one sport)

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Date: 6/4/2009 5:22:56 AM
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I see a fairly direct relation between the number of users in a country and the relative strength of its teams. For example, the newest promoted team in Japan d.1 has an average salary of $5000. The newest promoted team in Italy d.1 has an average salary of over $30,000. Not that average salary is the best or only method of defining quality, but it is a start and the suggested method in the game rules for determining which players should play.

I think the reason for this change is to help the better teams from bigger countries compete with the better teams from countries with little or no competition. Because a country has one or two or four good teams doesn't mean it should have a similar revenue stream as a country with 50 or 60 or 100 good teams.



There are today 36 active teams in Thailand and 36 in Japan. There is no doubt in my mind that if we took the top 8 from Thailand and Top 8 from Japan that you guys wouldnt have a representative in the Top4. I also think our closing pack would spring a few surprises.

There is I'm led to believe a hidden ranking stat which I guess could be used or do you think both our countries negotiate the same media deal?

I naturally hope that the monies received are in line with a global picture & my future income is not similar or linked with those that have managed their team with only a domestic outlook in mind.

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93604.58 in reply to 93604.57
Date: 6/4/2009 7:24:00 AM
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My point was not whether Japan could beat Thailand mano a mano or which league has the four best teams or how much testosterone I have pumping through my body. My point was that a league is 16 teams and must be measured as such. And that I see a fairly straight correlation between country size and League 1 quality. From BB-stats.org I averaged the team ratings of a few D.1 leagues around the world.

Japan- 7.02
Thailand- 6.23
Brazil- 8.8
Hanguk- 5.6
England- 8.14
Italy- 9.05

By this admittedly simple analysis Japan and Thailand are certainly more similar than Japan and England or Japan and Brazil.

And surely tv revenue should be tied to a "domestic outlook." Where you will be able to make your money (aside from daytrading) will be with merchandise sales from all your NT players and superstars. And selling out your arena for high prices.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 6/4/2009 7:30:27 AM

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93604.59 in reply to 93604.58
Date: 6/4/2009 8:07:24 AM
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but you have to see also, that with very low competition the international competition could become more intresting and for this it isn't funny when you have weaker income due the work of the other teams in your league even if you are doing as fine as your opponents.

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93604.60 in reply to 93604.58
Date: 6/4/2009 8:26:06 AM
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ok lets look at it in another way.

I cant talk basketball as i have no idea about the game :D

Football.

The relative strength of the Premier League/La Liga/Seria A is pretty similar... arguably higher in the PL cos they have the most money and own their stadiums as opposed to renting them from the government.(which some Spanish/Italian clubs do)

Japans J-League is toilet. No-one here could even grace the field of a Premier league side. So, in this example the TV rights would be poor (and understandably low) for the J-League (in BB terms) vs the money flooding into the Premier League/La Liga/Seria A etc.

But in BB there are many teams operating in J-League style quality divisions but capable of holding their own in Premier Leagues....

If the BB stats you have shared do indeed show the strengths of 1 nation vs another irrespective of users then I hope that this is the minimum yardstick used to determine the TV payouts.

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93604.61 in reply to 93604.60
Date: 6/4/2009 8:49:18 AM
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I don't think contracts will be negotiated per country but per league. I am a big Newcastle fan and next season they will be in the Championship where, among other things, their TV revenue will be much lower. It will still be substantially more than the MSL tv revenue though.

What you would like is a world league. Perhaps teams that win their division 1 should be able to opt into a champions league with higher rewards and higher risks.

The stats I shared are from bb-stats.org. They are not reflections of a nation. They are the average player ratings for all teams in that country's top division. Yours was 10.21. Mine was 9.45. You can check them out for yourself at

(http://www.bb-stats.org/league.php5?league=1962&seaso...)


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