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218937.515 in reply to 218937.514
Date: 8/15/2012 9:27:10 AM
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No, tanking isn't an issue at all!

Jokes.. Nice post +1

From: Axis123

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Date: 8/15/2012 9:28:05 AM
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It could also be fixed by correcting the fan survey.

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Date: 8/15/2012 9:54:02 AM
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LOL, but that could still bring about problems, the weaker teams in the league will then suffer a loss of income making it harder and longer for them to become successful in the league.

Not only that but if introduce this idea - people might think the BB's are doing something to improve the game.

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Date: 8/15/2012 11:10:47 AM
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It works /= it's a problem

And since everyone seems to love examples so much, I'll give a couple of it not working(looked through a couple US leagues) :)

Not amazing examples, but what I could find while browsing(also no offense to any of these managers, and if my take is wrong in any way feel free to correct it-just going off what I can see)

(29864) Season 17 dominates D.III, tanks in D.II season 18, seasons 19-20 is stuck as middling playoff team in D.III

(29230) Could take a season or two to tell on this one whether it worked or not. Season 15 absolutely destroys D.III 22-0, Season 16 tanks out of D.II 0-22, Season 17 finishes 5th in D.III, Season 18 relegates to D.IV(on purpose), season 19 promotes back to D.III, Season 20 in a fight to promote back to D.II

(23325) Joined in season 2, basically bounce between D.II and D.III from seasons 5-14, decides to tank for first time in season 15, apparently tanks season 16 too down to D.IV, Season 17 promotes back to D.III, Season 18 demotes back to D.IV, Season 19 promotes back to D.III, Season 20 middling playoff team in D.III


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218937.519 in reply to 218937.518
Date: 8/15/2012 11:47:07 AM
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We have an answer now. From the news post:
Offseason update

As we have mentioned in our last season news post, we are a bit worried about the number of users that have chosen to follow the strategy called “tanking” lately. Even though the strategy is not very successful, some teams still pursue it and it's frustrating for their fellow league members to see less competing teams. Therefore, we have decided to take some measures. “Tanking” should still be an option and we don't want to eliminate it completely, but from now on, the profit, we predict, won’t be so high. Starting from season 21, the salary floor will change for the first three divisions. First division salary floor will be 180% of the tv contract, second division will increase to 140% and third division to 100%. The other divisions will remain the same.



From: Mr AD

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218937.520 in reply to 218937.519
Date: 8/15/2012 12:59:13 PM
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not really a big solution though. 60/40/20 percent increase only from each division.

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218937.521 in reply to 218937.519
Date: 8/15/2012 1:12:30 PM
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Hmm, I was really hoping for a walkovers punishment as well, I suppose this will make it slightly tougher at the top level.

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Date: 8/15/2012 1:48:33 PM
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i don't really get the fans. i mean, they know that their team have no players, yet they buy tickets to watch the game. and voila, no game to watch because home team gave walkover. just saying

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Date: 8/15/2012 3:17:52 PM
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Maybe they dream of being the lucky fans called in!* Cause it still simulates some sort of game even though the walkover says 0-25. Once saw a team of lucky fans draw 69 fouls from a real team, fouled out 10 of the other teams players, but unfortunately went 14-116 from the line.

*obviously this is silly, needs to be a severe drop in attendance for repeated offences

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218937.524 in reply to 218937.522
Date: 8/15/2012 3:20:09 PM
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The one thing I cannot stand is the walkover. As long as point differential is used to determine tie-breakers, walkovers are a bad bad thing. I believe some serious measures should be installed against them. My suggestions have been to remove the offending team from the draft until all other draft picks have been used and to penalize a team either the income from game in question (if it is a home game) or the next home game on the schedule.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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218937.525 in reply to 218937.519
Date: 8/15/2012 4:22:11 PM
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this news post just show that they don't really care about the problem and/or they don't understand the problem...?!

there have been plenty of good suggestions posted here and all that ends in this salary floor increase....!!!???!!!
it's a JOKE from the BBs ????

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