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From: zyler

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Date: 8/21/2010 8:24:02 AM
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hey i know this is making us all angry that they dont get it , and that they want to be treated differently but try not to use the F word even in F form , dont want to see you get a ban or anything for something so silly .


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Date: 8/21/2010 8:30:21 AM
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right...i just gave fact they cant deny,also in his league team with highest payroll is 2-11 isnt that amusing?

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Date: 8/21/2010 8:35:55 AM
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they will find a way to deny it though i bet.

i honestly just dont get how they dont get it.

if your earning 300k a week - then the max salary you can have is 300k a week

its that simple.

dont get 300k salary players then complain you cant afford to buy new players , you already have the players.

win with what you have got.

the fact that the italy guy thinks my pg is useless speaks volumes in his understanding of the game engine.
his right my player barely does shoot which is great cause i dont want him to shoot i want him to pass, which is what he does.

theres a reason ive promoted every season since i joint this game , and thats that i get as much from my players salaries as possible, and that i use very cheap pg's that can match it with other pg's who earn much more.

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152075.523 in reply to 152075.520
Date: 8/21/2010 10:22:59 AM
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I've read most of this threads posts. Some good posts from both "sides"


no! no! NO! horrible posts on both "sides"
the whole argument of the economy was discussed a billion times (example: (69634.1), (129389.1))

everybody here just looks on it from their point of view
the basic argument is "what a great manager I am!" "no, you're a bad manager" "no, YOU're a bad manager"
500 really boring posts
this thread is a joke

can't we just ban this subject from the board?

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Date: 8/21/2010 11:14:37 AM
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The Italian and Spanish teams seem to have no capacity for long term planning and strategy. For example they often spend zero in scouting, yet landing a high potential draft pick can sell for anywhere from 1 to 5 million on the market. Even a so so prospect can net 500k. The value of scouting is increased even greater since no one in the league is spending any money on it, yet they still decline to do so. Surely the chance at such a windfall is worth a measly 10k a month. Likewise they are penny pinching in their training, their prospects, their arena, basically all of the ways to make money in the long term. Like they say in business you have to spend money to make money.

No one spend money on the draft,becaue the average level of the player of the draft is too low
A19 yo with the same rating of a 18yo should have higher strating skills.The 19yo lose a season of training because of his age,so you can't give him the same starting skills of a 18yo
A 4 ball rating 19yo became useless if his potential is not very very high,becaue at that point I can buy for few money a 18yo that will grow faster because of his age and with the same limit given by potential

And the old draft system was mainly based on luck,so nobody want to invest to have nothing,I always spend 10k/week on draft,and in seven season really few player deserve to be trained...i picked a player with almost all respectable and average in the outside skilss except for the atrocious OD with 9 potential....while someone could think to train that player,I old him,because to make him decent for a V division training OD till respectable,i would spend an entrie season,so having in the end a 19yo draftee with the same skills of some new draftee,but losing a lot of match an money during his training,what should have been my choice?

At least the new draft system(that we fight to change),allows you to spend the money you invest,in fact teams in italy are spending again some money on the draft because of it...

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 8/21/2010 11:28:05 AM

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152075.525 in reply to 152075.520
Date: 8/21/2010 11:26:47 AM
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Right words,but that's not the point
The problem is not that we have few money,the point is that ther's an objective inequality for the users of various countries to act on the market.
And the market is the same for all
All the teams are operating near the cap,so while the best will win our league as is fair,we all can't use the market for improve,also if we use some kind of strategy to have money to spend on the market,because of the condition of competitivity in their league they will have more money

I can quietly play a game with the entire system of the BB economy that works with few money to avoid infllaction,but i not accept to be permananetly disadvantaged on the market.Others can have temporary better conditions to allow them to close the gap to the salary cap,but this didn't happen in the past and doesn't seem to happen soon,so we ae disadvantaged by the start of the game
That's the point

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Date: 8/21/2010 11:41:50 AM
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But as I dont see this really as an issue rooted in money, but more an issue of competition, and no im not saying you guys are bad managers or want an easier game, but it just seems to me the real issue here is how to have teams running at their caps, but still not feeling like they are locked in stone without a way to get out. At least thats as best as I can describe what ive read.


that is exactly how i see it.

but as far as i see it , its meant to be like this , the part i dont understand is why they think there disadvantaged on the market , the reason they have less money is because they already have bought/trained great players , and that is clearly not a disadvantage.

maybe some teams are not getting as much out of there players as they could be and that is why they are struggling, i believe i read a post earlier stating that a manager was coming 1st in his div having the lowest salary while the guy with the most salary is coming last.

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