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NBA swag can go fly a kite, im calling you out swag! My team is just ok right now, surprising events are in the future here. Division 4 is calling my name. Lebron Slam Down wont be my worries this year. And good luck Pwnstar, I want to see you in the finals this year!

Last edited by Bufu12 at 9/4/2011 1:53:32 AM

This is a general post and not meant as a response to anything in particular. This is my first full season in BB but I've had the sport of bball around me my entire life. I came in the last third of S16 and as most of the B8 remembers was pretty much a doormat that was able to squeak into the playoffs.

That said, I just checked in on our reigning V.65 Champ YD and it's a revelation where they sit close to midseason. Currently they're below .500 with a PD of -74. Last season, YD rolled through last season nearly untouchable. This was punctuated by a sweep of LSD in the finals. In D.IV, they are not even set to get into the playoffs with their current roster getting stepped on like they are. Their last loss came on the road with pretty much a 30 point margin. The previous loss coming in at 60 pts. It is realistic that they could be fodder for relegation. This indicates to me that being dominant in D.V in no way guarantees success in D.IV. Bulking up for post season as a strategy seems feasible in lower leagues like D.V and D.VI. Without a true mastery of the nuances and techniques of building and maintaining a formidable squad, it would seem to doom any hopes of rising to compete with the BB elite. Joga Bonito

Peep YD's schedule at: http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/23064/schedule.aspx

Last edited by Mix at 9/6/2011 1:30:06 AM

Well that is not really fair to the Yard Dawgs or anyone else recently promoted. Of course they are going to be behind the curve. Each division you go up, you gain more revenue, so you have more money to pay/buy players. I mean, look at the team you start with here, and what you have now. It didn't happen overnight. It takes time.

What I find interesting is that there are already 2 bots in the league, with 2 more about to go bot. Unlike in D.V, when a team goes bot, it stays bot until the end of the season. So with 2 bots in each division, He is more then likely to stay up. Plus, he is 1 of only 3 teams left in the USA cup, so he's earning yet additional revenue.

Season 15's winner, Monkey Show, (29183) is 9-2 and doing very well, in their second season. They are all but a lock for the playoffs.

So maybe we are doing something right, no? :P

Traumatic Tuesday Night!

UGN @ Capt. Morgan (-15) (o/u 178)

NBA swaggs @ Seattle Legends (+ 31) (o/u 204)

NY Nightmare @ Hammersaurus Rex (-20) (o/u 183)

weed rollers @ W. Buckeyes (-16) (o/u 173)

Team Jazz @ Moneyhoes (-13) (o/u 191)

IXLOS Sabres @ lafakers (+24) (o/u 200)

Preliminary Match-up

L.S.D. go into Epic Arena needing to prove they can hang with the big boys. Something Epic comes home after that heartbreaking loss, where they put everything into, but came up short. L.S.D. could put all on the line and steal one, not sure they will though.

L.S.D. @ Something Epic (-14) (o/u 220)

MONO E MONO

No its not an STD. Well it might be after the game. If things go as planned the Violatorz, may need some penicillin.

Violatorz @ oo Pwnstarz oo (-13) (o/u 169)

I appreciate the response and didn't mean to seem not respectful of the achievements of winning a league. It wasn't my intention to throw a dig at the league or to toss YD under the bus.

The meat of the message is an observation on D.V dominance vs. higher league competitiveness. The general principles of the game remain unchanged on any level. The illustration I chose was YD but it could apply to any team. The topic I was trying to flush out was dependence on strategies that succeed in the beginner leagues that lead to detrimental habits that can hinder a manager going onto the next level. Ideally, any competent manager should get a shot on the bigger stage.

My critique does use a real world example. With all due respect to your 'fairness', PWNY, YD's team history shows that the franchise became YD in Season 8. At that time the team was in D.IV. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/23064/history.aspx Since that time they've won two D.V titles. A great accomplishment in itself but it also meant that they were relegated twice. I believe there are lessons to be learned for all managers by studying this example. There's nothing mean spirited about it. It's simply observation and study of an example. An example that happened to run over V.65 like a Mack truck, but for some reason hasn't translated that success in D.IV play.

Your insight is always appreciated, PWNY. I'll state again that I'm just a noob and am eager to learn. It's my method to pull things apart and learn through vigorous dissection. It's not my intent to come off as an instant expert. My own squad didn't happen overnight, true enough, and we're far from being a power in D.V. Hopefully in the near future we'll be able to try our hand at D.IV and beyond. Same goes for the rest of the league.

Last edited by Mix at 9/6/2011 2:00:46 AM

Damn your spelling and fuzzy math again, PWNY. It's "Mano Y Mano".

LSD's been silent but is always deadly. I don't see why they wouldn't go all out being that they dropped 2 of their last 3. The most dangerous animal is the one that is wounded.

The only non-bot matchup other than you and VIO is SWAG v. Legends. So it's 90% yawn on a Tuesday. Man, you really got no faith in Moneyhoes. Is it because Panoulias got bumped from Points Leader for the week? Not very fair or balanced, P-baby :0

Last edited by Mix at 9/6/2011 2:12:48 AM

I wasn't criticizing your post. I was just showing, that you really can't expect a team from D.V to go in and dominate teams that have been making more money and have more established players. It takes time to compete, just like it takes time to compete in our division, after you start.

The link to Monkey Show doesn't seem to work and I couldn't find it via search. I'm in total agreement about needing time to acclimate to the higher league which is why I chose a team that is in their 3rd stint in D.IV as a case study.

Let me introduce another example that will hopefully advance the topic. The Silverbacks, currently in the NBBA. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/23223/history.aspx Acquired during S3 in D.IV they promoted and remained competitive following each promotion even going undefeated in S7 (D.III) en route to a title. Currently they are back to back cup champions and were one of the last 32 teams in the latest B3. Guy is also very active in the forums as well to help other managers. I first came across him in a defensive thread. I decided to check him out and search for any clues to his formula for success and rapid advancement.

Last edited by Mix at 9/6/2011 11:26:22 AM

All this smart talking is making me angry >_<. I dont start college again for another 2 weeks, i dont need proper grammar now!!!! dfujbweukfbweiu . Nah just kidding, im just lazy, but love reading the posts on the forums. And I say screw that, this game is about heart and thats what my players got. None of my players are on the top list lol.

Well it was easier to advance in the beginning. Less people, less ideas, any good one, would have moved you up. But yeah the Silverbacks are the gold standard.

No we have teams that exploit, certain tactics and tank, just generate revenue. Its a very different game, then in season 1-7. There has been time to amass lots of wealth, and train players for a while. We come in a time when, they've learned and documented all the nuances to training, building a team, and revenue creation/maintaining.

Whatchu talkin' bout, Bufu? (that bad enough grammar?) You got 5 players listed in the league leaders http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/381/stats.aspx Nuff respect for that.

Since Buf brought up heart I'd like to say that this exchange between the top two teams of both conferences is as non-fapworthy as it gets considering this could be a finals preview. Where's the tension?! The rivalry?! I was expecting something more along these lines, brother! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWZ7aBfA85A

SPARKS WILL FLY AS THE INFINITE O OF THE PWNSTARS LAY THEIR PERFECT RECORD ON THE LINE AGAINST THE IMPENETRABLE D OF THE VIOLATORZ! WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE POWERS OF THE V65 EXPLODE ALL OVER YOU??!!!

Last edited by Mix at 9/6/2011 7:24:03 PM