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From: Bevzil

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Date: 4/5/2008 1:32:57 PM
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even if you will have a strong team and have an ambition to go far in the internacional cup, you have to think if will not be wasting of a money to lose national cup - because in the international cup will be always possibility to lose, that means you can lose both if you think bad.


There is a chance that you don't drop out the Cup, there's always plenty of bots around :) But I would be in really big advantage if I could train 7-8 players per week, and that's not fair... Maybe that International Cup can take place after all National Cups end, and the teams plays the games instead of Scrimmages...

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In BB, the best players always performs well




Not necessarily - that's what Game Shape is for.


Well, let's say it this way: If you can get to the International Cup, you can manage the GS also :)

From: Iordanou

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you will have more responsibility for more trophies if you will play so many cups, don't you think?:)

that means you will need more players with more wages and if you will train any position - you will train on every event the same position, that means you will train same type of players, but just some more of them - so you have no tactical advantage - I must get in at first.

At second - 5-6 or 7-8 doesn't sound like so big difference for the aditional wages which you'll have to pay for players in both cups, wake up:)

From: Bevzil

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Today I earned 257 000 $ from my league game, so a 40-50k more for wages would not be a problem for me :) And benefit of 2 more trainees would bring me much much more...

From: Iordanou

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the wages will be harder by the time, you will see - there are no legendary players on the market, because we didn't train them - for now:)

noone tells that clever manager with good tactical skills will not benefit from that - I'm just telling that the benefit will not be so big, so will not be impossible to beat you in the league in future - easily

because in the end - everything depends on luck in the int.cup

and you can even think so bad that you'll get a priority with some players to international cup and lose on national cup, because players was on the bench

see - the realism is the best way in that case

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/5/2008 2:42:27 PM

From: ZyZla

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First of all I`m talking here not like GM... I`m simple user as like you in this case...
By the they in here as well best players sometimes playing crappy... Very nice example is my own center...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
From: ZyZla

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I totally agree. Cause you`ll need not just amateur level extra trainees that will cost something for you... Cause don`t think that with trainees you`ll be able to win international cup, national cup and league... That`s just not possible... as well you`ll need three more positions players and not shits but good ones... And all this will cost not so small amount of money...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
From: jimrtex

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Date: 4/5/2008 4:47:31 PM
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Let's say qualification was part of the playoffs at the end of the previous season, and then the teams that qualifies would have to designate a 15-player roster for the entire tournament. The players would be given a no-cut, no-trade contract for the length of the tournament. Only players on the 15-player roster would be eligible for play. They could be used for league, national cup, and scrimmages,

The international tournament could be played with an initial group stage, followed by knockout stages. So teams who bought some players for the international cup would have the risk of still paying their contracts if they got knocked out early.

From: jimrtex

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Date: 4/5/2008 5:03:59 PM
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Or teams in the international cup could be excused from early rounds of their national cup - so they would still be playing 3 games per week. Once they were eliminated from the international cup, they would switch back to their national cup.

If teams were eliminated from the international cup early, the field of the national cup would be too small.

So you could give some teams byes for a round. But that might be pretty confusing. You win your cup game, but then aren't scheduled for the next week. Besides thinking you may have been eliminated, you have to schedule a scrimmage.

Or alternatively, some lucky losers could be retained in the cup. This could be either random, or based on the closeness of the game.

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Date: 4/6/2008 5:22:30 AM
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Let's say qualification was part of the playoffs at the end of the previous season, and then the teams that qualifies would have to designate a 15-player roster for the entire tournament. The players would be given a no-cut, no-trade contract for the length of the tournament. Only players on the 15-player roster would be eligible for play. They could be used for league, national cup, and scrimmages


I like the point that you have to register before tournament 15 players and no others could to play - maybe there could be before final battles 1 aditional registration

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/6/2008 5:23:03 AM

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Or teams in the international cup could be excused from early rounds of their national cup - so they would still be playing 3 games per week. Once they were eliminated from the international cup, they would switch back to their national cup.


this idea seems pretty but I don't think that losing opportunity to be in national cup will makes life to all harder - it will be just easier I think, because there will be no aditional motivation and you could see by the time (even) a teams which will be on international cup and lose almost all matches in league, because they will not have any motivation to do anything else - for that we have a national cup, to motivate all teams to have a wide squad

there should be some groups before knockout system as you noticed correctly up there and I think that int. competitors should to jump in the national cup before knockout system...

..this will create a new dimension of decisions which every manager have to do before knockout and big finals

what do you think?

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/6/2008 5:50:14 AM

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