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i disagree with the notion that you shouldn't watch your games

It is true that the game is calculated in advance, however, it is calculated based upon who is on the court. If you have a late meltdown, it might be because someone wasn't on the court, thus there influence wasn't felt. The calculations happen during the 15 minutes prior to the live show option starts, but you should know that those calculations take into account the players on the court. So you could analyse the boxscore, but something things aren't shown in the boxscore.

personally, i prefer analysing the play by play option :P gives you more information

@ Quiquits
you got inpatient. you were playing an away game, which from past experiences generally is a horrible idea to use a CT on. you need to be desperate to do that. Also, a CT means getting one win, but generally losing the next 4-5 games. considering the cup might be your savior, it might only be 3 league games then. However, those 3 league games come against Vottem away (unlikely to beat either way), home against Obira (there was a decent chance there) and away against Sgolba (which also was a decent chance).

So in reality, you took a risk to win one game and threw away the chance to win 2 others (unless if Sgolba or Obira were to waste some enthusiasm aswell, which i'm assuming they didn't do). When playing CT, you always need to keep the following games in mind... That is why i believe that a CT isn't a good option, unless you intend to dump you enthusiasm (or a CT at the end of the season to secure your 5th spot might be worth it...)

well it didn't take long for us to disagree on something :P

still, CTing an away game was to risky imo. Also, DMI (aaah, my favorite where i generally disagree with Joe) is an indication as to where the sublvls lie in terms of training & Gameshape. And unless i'm mistaken, the DMI heavely favored the hometeam. that aswell would have convinced me not to CT. i doubt you would have CTed in his position.

Also, i'm unfamiliar with saving enthusiasm, but i noticed that rainmakers never tried harder than his opponent in any of his league games, which would have put his enthusiasm higher than Quiquits one.

So after taking all that into consideration, i could say fairely that i wouldn't have CTed. i would have gambled on the fact that i would defeat him at home and take my chances against Obira or Sgolba afterwards, trying to win one of those games.

Wow guys take it easy it was a meaningless game for both of you :P

But I really loved to read both of your arguments :)

I quite agree, I would have probably tried the same.

@BigT :

Although it is satisfying to tell when a crunch time has been done, please refrain to do so. This is part of the game, sometimes you get crunched sometimes you crunch someone, life is life.

But telling others is wrong : Guiguits' next opponents will know they can field a weaker team and/ or save TS by playing TIE, which is not necessarily something they would have done otherwise. This impacts also their opponent's next games, and so on. Not to mention that it might have an impact on you as well : easy wins will grant your future opponents the opportunity to field better teams against you since they didn't need it in an earlier game.

EDIT : I also believe it's part of the manager job to estimate the GS of the opposition ;)

Last edited by Dartreb at 12/6/2015 6:58:30 PM

Wow guys take it easy it was a meaningless game for both of you :P

But I really loved to read both of your arguments :)

We take it easy, we have just given our advise :)

common guy's, be happy. we are bringing some life to the forum ;) the game would be boring if we all agreed on how we should play it :P