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JUST and example; dont get back to me on the exact numbers..:D
0-10000 spectators watching 0%
10001-15000 10%
15001-20000 15%
20001-25000 19%

So if you have a 20000 seater with 18000 spectators watching:
0->10000 spectators watching 0%
10001->15000 10%
15001->18000 15%

The following questions are ment as posed, no irony, no critique:

Why do you want to tax teams with larger arenas? What is the exact intention behind? General economic balance? Favor smaller/newer teams? Favor/punish certain match strategies?

So i made a proposal,which punishes the country without competitivity....... and will penalize who have enourmous palace in the weakest countries

Take a step back and just try and think for a moment about what your saying within your speech and why the above 2 extracts really are complete nonsense.

So i made a proposal,which punishes the country without competitivity,but not the people who have loste many money to widen their arenas.The taxes will be paid not on bases of divisons or number of seats,but of number of effective spectators in every game.So,the taxes will be paid according to the single game and will penalize who have enourmous palace in the weakest countries,because in countries who are more competitive and there are frequent decreases of spectators flow,the teams will not pay taxes in the match in which have few fans in the arena;in the countries with players without competitivity but only enormous palaces teams will pay more taxes on more incomes,in the measure of your first proposal

look at my thought:
if i have a strong team in a country without any team which could compete with me,in the various seasons i will always win,so i'll have a great number of funs and i can widen my arena with the safety that it will be filled in evry match,so i 'll make a enormous arena and i'll earn lot of money which i can spend on the market,overcoming the users of the strongest countries which cannot build enormous palaces because,for the competitivity of their divison,they have a certain number of losses and they never can fill this kind of arena(and this explain why italian Serie A arenas are the smallest in the countries)
There are some exceptions as Toroo and Hambourg Bulls which are in strong countries and have great palaces sold out(just to make an example),but as the word says,are exceptions.

i think comparing the Bundesliga and the Serie A is pointless: every team who plays in those league is competitive and has a high salary cap, and if one doesn't it will be relegated in II and replaced by a stronger one

Last edited by mark_lenders at 1/23/2009 11:30:57 AM

dumb question, so you earn much more money when you max out the ticket prices for your bleachers and build a much of vip loges who are sold for a small prices to get a high income with less visitors? is that your plan?

That is pretty cool to punish winning streaks, too.

And why are great arena bad? Just because they managers thought more then one season in front?

Edit: pretty funny is also that a team with 14.999 Visitor get a lot more money then one, who sold one ticket more ;) More customers less profit^^

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/23/2009 11:30:21 AM

isent the STH is the way of BB to limit the max to ppl who wil go to a game?

dumb question, so you earn much more money when you max out the ticket prices for your bleachers and build a much of vip loges who are sold for a small prices to get a high income with less visitors? is that your plan?

That is pretty cool to punish winning streaks, too.

And why are great arena bad? Just because they managers thought more then one season in front?

Edit: pretty funny is also that a team with 14.999 Visitor get a lot more money then one, who sold one ticket more ;) More customers less profit^^

dumb question, so you earn much more money when you max out the ticket prices for your bleachers and build a much of vip loges who are sold for a small prices to get a high income with less visitors? is that your plan?

That is pretty cool to punish winning streaks, too.

And why are great arena bad? Just because they managers thought more then one season in front?

1)show me when i have said"the right choice is max out the tickets and build a much of vip loges".And the teams with great arenas will earn however more money
2)a Winning sterak have the same value in the various countries?Unfortunately is impossible to insert a coefficient of the strenght of different countries because many users protest.So,because,with exception(toroo,hambourg bullc,etc...)winning streaks are the result of a great lack of competitivity in many countries
3)Great arena aren't bad,but the purpose of the game could be to build the best team possible,not to create enormous palace,make lot of money and buy the best player in the world without showing any ability to train players and to create a personal team
Just my two cents

Edit: pretty funny is also that a team with 14.999 Visitor get a lot more money then one, who sold one ticket more ;) More customers less profit^^

Also in reality there are shares for the different salaries when you have to pay taxes.It is clearly an extreme case

whats the sth?

1)show me when i have said"the right choice is max out the tickets and build a much of vip loges".And the teams with great arenas will earn however more money

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So if you have a 20000 seater with 18000 spectators watching:
0->10000 spectators watching 0%
10001->15000 10%
15001->18000 15%

ok,we have the same idea :D

Because you would earn more with less visitors, who paying an average high price.

Even a team earns more money if it sold 9999 places, in comparisation to a team who sold one bleacher more - around 10% i will say ... Maybe you will earn the same when you reach around 10.800 visitors. So think a bit about your ideas.

2)a Winning sterak have the same value in the various countries?Unfortunately is impossible to insert a coefficient of the strenght of different countries because many users protest.So,because,with exception(toroo,hambourg bullc,etc...)winning streaks are the result of a great lack of competitivity in many countries

i said that, because winning streaks get lot more sold bleachers with will affect in higher taxes and will reduce the profits due your genious arena tax.

3)Great arena aren't bad,but the purpose of the game could be to build the best team possible,not to create enormous palace,make lot of money and buy the best player in the world without showing any ability to train players and to create a personal team

Best team possible seems to be a long term plan ;) So maybe be 3% weaker over two season and make more profit, so that you could pay the best team in a later stage of the game and still build on your arena*. So maybe your idea to reach the target is wrong ...

I would say the complete the opposite of you, i would say the arena are way toooooo small. Take a look at the ticket prices, they are mostly in the top 25% of the price range and their are only a handfull teams in this games where it could make sense to take basis prices or below.

* if you ahd put 200k in your arena and reinvest 50% of the extra cash you get, you will have more money and lot more seats in 2-3 seasons. Sounds like a good plan, for a manager ;)

season tickets holders? as i understand there is a limit of 4000 per team (as from the last few seasons so there might be few teams with over that but thy graduetly losing them) now bay limiting the STH (seasonal tickets holders yes?) the BB's have a way to control the number of tickets who will be sold etch game dosent matter if the team wins every championship from season 1 until now there is just as much as you can go up as for sells so it dosent matter if your arena have 200k places if you only feel 50k that as good as 50k arena

but that is my 2 cents from my season and a bit in BB if i am wrong correct me please

thanks for the explanation, and you are right the arena won't reach infinite seats because on a certein point it doesn't make sense to build more seats :)