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From: Mr AD

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Date: 8/15/2012 12:59:13 PM
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not really a big solution though. 60/40/20 percent increase only from each division.

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Date: 8/15/2012 1:12:30 PM
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Hmm, I was really hoping for a walkovers punishment as well, I suppose this will make it slightly tougher at the top level.

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Date: 8/15/2012 1:48:33 PM
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i don't really get the fans. i mean, they know that their team have no players, yet they buy tickets to watch the game. and voila, no game to watch because home team gave walkover. just saying

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Date: 8/15/2012 3:17:52 PM
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Maybe they dream of being the lucky fans called in!* Cause it still simulates some sort of game even though the walkover says 0-25. Once saw a team of lucky fans draw 69 fouls from a real team, fouled out 10 of the other teams players, but unfortunately went 14-116 from the line.

*obviously this is silly, needs to be a severe drop in attendance for repeated offences

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Date: 8/15/2012 3:20:09 PM
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The one thing I cannot stand is the walkover. As long as point differential is used to determine tie-breakers, walkovers are a bad bad thing. I believe some serious measures should be installed against them. My suggestions have been to remove the offending team from the draft until all other draft picks have been used and to penalize a team either the income from game in question (if it is a home game) or the next home game on the schedule.

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Date: 8/15/2012 4:22:11 PM
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this news post just show that they don't really care about the problem and/or they don't understand the problem...?!

there have been plenty of good suggestions posted here and all that ends in this salary floor increase....!!!???!!!
it's a JOKE from the BBs ????

From: tough

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Date: 8/15/2012 4:47:01 PM
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That's BB-Marin it looked like from the the post BB-Patrick posted he looks like he is really concerened with tanking. I don't know what rank he was with BB-Marin and others but I really think BB Patrick would've done some more drastic measures to tanking, idk what BB Marin was doing but let's hope that they made it tougher for higher divisions.

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Date: 8/15/2012 5:26:18 PM
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Here is my cent regarding the change that will enter next season (S-21);

1) Nice to know that the BBs are hearing the noise coming from the users about tanking.
Although this is the easiest change, as it is just changing few constants, the Wanting is appreciated.

2) The salary floor did not succeed till now, as we see that the phenomenon of tanking being massive.
Hence, I'm not expecting that raising it will change that.

3) A salary cap proved itself whenever it was used in the world.
Users are tanking because they cannot compete, so they are trying to get stronger in order of being more of a competition in the future.

4) As this change will just make it harder for them to get stronger in order of being able to compete, one option is that they will get frustrated and leave the game faster.
As it seems, the departure rate is already increasing, and I believe that it is that there is an issue with competition.

5) Increasing the amount of money a team pays at an higher division means that while they keep being a team that cannot compete, they will gain less of playing at this higher division.
Hence, they may decide to tank earlier, and to pile assets there.
A phenomenon of users tanking at the playoff of their division, for not being promoted to the higher division is a very realistic option that we may see.

From: Axis123
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Date: 8/15/2012 5:45:03 PM
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Thanks everyone for commenting in here. Over 500 posts!

I think it's important that we reduce the amount of negativity and be somewhat thankful that the BBs listened. They didn't have to and, I imagine, BB would still continue to grow. I think they want to satisfy their existing user base, yet not do something that will upset the apple cart.

It is a really good start to raise the salary floor, and there are some other really good ideas in here and other places that, if the salary floor doesn't work, I'm sure the BBs will take notice. Let's hope so.

In fact, I'm sure the BBs will read, or at least be directed to, some of this. In that vain, I think it's important that one of the "tanking" issues pretty much everyone wants to see addressed is the walkover problem.

Personally, I have an issue with the Fan Survey, but I'm not sure if others share my disliking for it.

Anyway, thanks BBs, for listening and taking action! From someone who enjoys the game, I'm glad that, even if a small bit, our voices were heard.

From: Ehud

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Date: 8/15/2012 6:28:39 PM
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Wow - I must say that it's refreshing to hear a positive voice.


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