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251520.524 in reply to 251520.522
Date: 10/11/2017 5:10:34 PM
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Man that game was such a fluke!!! I was so expected to score a 100 points that even my team against a former playoff team in this league scored 115 against Plymouth in a lost... Ugh still don't know the playoff outcome for my division.

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251520.525 in reply to 251520.448
Date: 10/12/2017 4:45:39 AM
Surental Lakers
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251520.526 in reply to 251520.525
Date: 10/12/2017 4:51:13 AM
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Had a guy scored a triple double!!! The reason why you lost is because they had higher double digit scorers rather than the extra two and your 5. The guy team name should really get remove.

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251520.527 in reply to 251520.525
Date: 10/12/2017 11:22:21 AM
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This may be a surprise, but outside offenses sometimes have guys who are supposed to have good chances to score based on their skills and matchup, and have good PP100 ratings based on that, who still go out and shoot 25% or less. On the bright side, while outside shooting teams have that disadvantage, and the disadvantage in training speeds and in salary costs, at least they don't get the benefits of additional rebounding or FTs like an LI team does!

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251520.528 in reply to 251520.527
Date: 10/12/2017 2:14:03 PM
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I might reconsider building an outside oriented team :`(

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251520.529 in reply to 251520.528
Date: 10/17/2017 9:49:47 PM
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This season has to be the weirdest I have ever experience on buzzer beater. First the fluke game now I get 110 my average or something on fantical and I still lost my promotion hopes are now shot because of this they literally are the better team... Fk how does it be that I can still lose and score a 110 + points...

Last edited by WardoYT at 10/17/2017 9:50:01 PM

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251520.530 in reply to 251520.529
Date: 10/17/2017 10:05:29 PM
Delaware 87ers
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Your team turned the ball over 24 time sand shot 2-14 from the line. You can't expect to win like that.

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251520.531 in reply to 251520.530
Date: 10/17/2017 10:06:28 PM
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Man I can't believe my team scored 100+ points and still lost...

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251520.533 in reply to 251520.531
Date: 10/18/2017 4:16:58 AM
Hard Ball Gets
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Man I can't believe my team scored 100+ points and still lost...


You lost because your opponent scored more points than you.

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251520.534 in reply to 251520.527
Date: 10/18/2017 6:17:25 AM
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This may be a surprise, but outside offenses sometimes have guys who are supposed to have good chances to score based on their skills and matchup, and have good PP100 ratings based on that, who still go out and shoot 25% or less. On the bright side, while outside shooting teams have that disadvantage, and the disadvantage in training speeds and in salary costs, at least they don't get the benefits of additional rebounding or FTs like an LI team does! =P~

There are 19 shot events in the game that I know of. I think more analysis is needed to understand what works and what doesn't for an outside offense. Personally I would like to see team rating defense on open shots reduced and that will help outside teams and teams that sacrifice shooting for flow. I'm pretty sure this would help outside oriented teams and, in any case, it makes no sense that a guarded shot has higher chance to go in than an open one.

I almost have all the play-by-play of the 176 EBBL games (for some reason I can never get all 176 in one go, some are always missing) from s39 split by single event with defender, outcome, etc, then I will start running some checks on defense and type of shot. I expect some shots to have higher FG% than others of course and some shots to be more frequent than others. Interestingly there are 3 type of putbacks and I assume some may have different FG%.

These are the shots anyway and the way I think they are categorised (the one I'm not sure of is fade away, as it is probably in between a jump shot and an inside shot):
CORNER_THREE, 3 pointer
WING_THREE, 3 pointer
STRAIGHT_ON_THREE, 3 pointer
VERY_LONG, 3 pointer
HALF_COURT_SHOT, 3 pointer
WING, Jump Shot
TOPKEY, Jump Shot
ELBOW, Jump Shot
BASELINE_J, Jump Shot
SPINNY, Jump Shot
FALL_AWAY, Jump Shot?
DRIVING_LAYUP, Layup
LAYUP, Layup
HOOK, Inside shot
STRONG, Inside shot
DUNK, Dunk (DUNK_MISSED, Dunk)
PUTBACK, Putback
TIPBACK, Putback
TIPBACKDUNK, Putback
FREE_THROW_MADE, FT (FREE_THROW_MISSED, FT)

I'll take this to another thread. I will try to add tactics to it but that information is not on the pbp.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/18/2017 8:16:57 AM

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