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I share the opinion training is what matters in BB.
On the same hand, I get what Trainerman say about high division teams getting advantage of farms. Or merely having better methods to "steal" promising youngsters.

To tackle this, and market inflation at the same time, the key is to either speed training up a little (market prices and farming drops) or focus on bonuses for draftees (loyalty sort of), which would be very nice indeed.

Congratulations for the superb run by the way : )

three times
amazing
I'm jealous
I had no opportunity to play against the best team

congratulations!


@Trainerman
wow
this game was cheated (87499270) , but I was drunk and wrote 65:69 instead of 95:69, my little mistake
greetings

Last edited by darkonza at 11/5/2015 3:21:08 PM

If you lost every player in the b3 pool that was ever an FA, every single one of them...Don't you think it would be much harder to win? You'd be forced to use less efficient less TSP players, which are closer in quality to that of newer and less established teams.

Everybody would be in the same boat. You can't say that a guy who has been at the very top for 10 seasons now (Darkonza) would not have been successful if EVERYONE did not have the chance to buy higher TSP players.

Just make B3 very hard to win if you're losing money on salaries and price the TSP on multiskilled players correctly in their salary. This season Mordor had one of the highest payrolls in the campaign. Maunu Hakkinen a 158+ TSP listed at SF (in the top ranked NT team in the BB-world) never had a salary of over 200k. His trainer is still playing the game btw. 158+ TSP in this game is like LeBron James in real life and in real life, in a world without salary cap, LeBron James would easily make $50 million a year. It's nonsense to have 110 TSP players (DeAndre Jordan) cost 300k and 158 TSP players (LeBRon) cost 200k or less. The problem is even bigger at the mid level where you can build 120 TSP and 70 TSP players in the same 50k salary bracket.

Do you want to level the playing field? Price IS on guards, price TSP correctly in general (this is the real 'wealth' top teams have), increase salary across the board on top of that and increase the overextension tax or, even better, link the tax to the overall payroll so that -50k is penalised much more if you are at 900k salary instead of 400k. Then choices will become harder and even people making runs like Venomous Scorpions seasons ago will not be able to stay at the top because they will lose too much money.

Besides there are teams at the top who actually have built their best players from scratch. Vecx has 2 starters in the English NT team whom he trained from scratch at 18yo and he's about to win back-to-back titles in the EBBL (because he's going to wipe me off the floor tomorrow) http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/91095/players.aspx

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/6/2015 5:57:58 AM

Each game has some rules, better or worse.
If you change the rules in the BB, then there will be other strategies to make money.
New ways to make money upset someone else.
Rules happy for all? it is impossible

Today, ways to make money:
1. Tanking - the biggest cash
2. Buying young and strong players (2-3 million $) training one season, and put on LT again, again, and again one million more price [1]
2. Training young players
4. Daytraiding juniors - the weakest way

I play 10 seasons in the playoffs B3
Ad1 No, I cann't tanking
Ad2 No, I need stable roster
Ad3 No, in playoffs B3 managers train gameshape, Polish league is too strong to train juniors
Only 4 is for me
Ad4 Selling price 852k - 348k (taxes) - 100k (buying cost) - 50k (salary) = 354k profit (in previous seasons about 500 k)

In this season my income about 13 000k + 354k daytraiding = 13 354k
Do you think that makes a difference? Maybe, but small
First and second methods give much more money
I would much prefer first or second way, but if you want to play in the playoffs b3 you cann't

Teams which earn money in ways 1 - 4 are thousands, so it isn't most important.
The most important thing is to have the highest possible boxscore-stats in relation to salaries.
The best example is Codemasters. This is the key to success in BB - a high level play at low salaries.
Alternatively, you can tanking few seasons and spend money in one season - only for micronation and BBB champions

[1] - I propose 1% tax price player put on LT


Last edited by darkonza at 11/6/2015 4:36:22 PM

[1] - I propose 1% tax price player put on LT

At least that would make sure people don't list at unreasonably high prices, hoping someone will bite.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/6/2015 6:09:03 PM

[1] - I propose 1% tax price player put on LT

It might be a small step in the right direction.

It might become just another bad feature if a transfer market that is steadily getting worse.

I could imagine either effect.

It won't be easy to dampen the daytrading aspect of the market without dampening the market for the legitimate users of the market.