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284904.53 in reply to 284904.49
Date: 3/27/2017 4:14:38 AM
Bijain路de路Musgo路BC
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Now, after the last home match, I reached 66% attendance, more or less the same when I had the first abnormal drop when the problem arose in last season.
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/79127/arena.aspx.

By now and for the attendance, I've won one match at home, lost another out, and won the cup at home too. Saturday I won at home again.
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/79127/schedule.aspx

As I said, never changed the prices in the whole season. Hope you can find out what could happened.
Hope too the results improve before my economy weakens, because if I start to loose from this level, I won't to imagine....

Regards!

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284904.54 in reply to 284904.50
Date: 3/28/2017 10:41:53 AM
TrenseRI
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ChiLeaders
Hi again!

No, I didn't change prices. I set up the prices before the beginning the 37 season.

It seems like the attendance has now stabilised. Only the first match of the season seems a bit low, but not excessively so any more, comparing to the prices after the initial drop. I'll have to investigate this a bit further to find out which is the correct level, before the drop or after. If I determine the former, we might need to recalculate attendance again.

EDIT: Looks like there is no mistake here, only some weird behaviour of the fan survey code (especially in that second to last match of last season). Comparing to your leaguemates, you are now exactly where you need to be, looking at your income. There is one team that is earning substantially more and that is a team which won his league and was promoted directly last season, just like you did the season before that. So, it seems that the boost we give to promotees from DIV to DIII in the offseason is too great, and then, when the boost is no longer felt, the drop seems devastating. Maybe this was done intentionally to help promotees stay up, maybe not, but I hesitate to change it now. I still cannot explain that last home match of last season though.

Last edited by BB-Marin at 3/28/2017 11:05:19 AM

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284904.55 in reply to 284904.51
Date: 3/28/2017 10:42:59 AM
TrenseRI
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It's possible that two teams have you as a rival, that's not a mistake. However, you can have only one and that's the one we're counting.

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Date: 3/28/2017 10:45:37 AM
TrenseRI
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ChiLeaders
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/276407/arena.aspx)

While I lost versus my rival and lost my last game, I made +88k this evening compared to first attendance...

Yes, that does seem too big of a difference. Let's look at a couple more matches and then, if needed, we will recalculate the attendance for the first match (both for you and others).

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284904.57 in reply to 284904.56
Date: 3/28/2017 4:47:22 PM
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Difference between first season with boosting bonus, and the season after seems to big, true.
It's weird because we think that tickets prices are going to be ok to begin our next season... and we have to assume "our" mistake of those too expansive prices for 3 or 4 home games before to correct it! ...not easy to anticipate clearly.

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284904.58 in reply to 284904.54
Date: 3/30/2017 6:24:00 AM
Bijain路de路Musgo路BC
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OK, I understand and almost agree your reasoning; but, I've skim my leaguemates and, lets say Sanardo (76105), who promoted like me but ended 7th in his conference, hardly has a drop of about 15-20%, or Madremanya CB (26005) who did 6th, is now having a 20% but likely because its last results..., and so.
I've only found one team Mitsu C.B. (134508) with about 40% drop, but with very bad results.
Maybe when I promoted had a high boost, don't know, but I ended a good season and, for me, the fans should be anxious for the beginning of the new season and, instead of that, I've got a worse % attendance than the teams that ended in worse position.
Could it be normal improve seasonal tickets sale at the beginning of the season of only about 3% with a quite good results?

Last edited by Cansino路Man at 3/30/2017 7:15:29 AM

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284904.59 in reply to 284904.57
Date: 3/30/2017 7:11:37 AM
TrenseRI
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It's not clear, I agree, but the alternative is not to have as big a boost as it is now.

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284904.60 in reply to 284904.58
Date: 3/30/2017 7:17:42 AM
TrenseRI
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I'm looking at Sanardo and his drop is more in the range of 40-45%, Madremanya didn't have as big a boost to start with last season. Seems that the promotion boost is pretty large and when it's gone, the drop is, as your colleague said, confusing. As I already told him, the alternative is to reduce the boost, but I don't think anyone would like that.

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284904.61 in reply to 284904.60
Date: 3/30/2017 10:06:03 AM
Bijain路de路Musgo路BC
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About Sanardo, I take the point where the miscalculation arose (2017/2/25). From the beginning the drop is bigger, but we have to keep in mind the previous results, -2017/2/18: 12795 fans, -2017/3/4: 12039 fans(relegation), -2017/3/18: 11372 fans..... for me... not much more than a 10 % drop.

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284904.62 in reply to 284904.61
Date: 4/2/2017 12:22:42 PM
TrenseRI
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I'm looking at revenue, something that is more accurate. Seems like he might have changed ticket prices so there is that factor too.

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Date: 4/8/2017 8:56:15 AM
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Sorry for double posting, just ignore either this post or the other at your leisure.
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/276019/arena.aspx

I promoted by winning the league and I got 9k tickets in the 1st game (against my rival) and an average of 14.4k in the next 2 games. That's 249.8k gates compared to an average of 351k in the next 2 games, so more than $100k difference. In percentages my attendance was 37.5% lower and gates were 30% lower.

Was I accidentally boycotted despite winning 24 games and the league last season?

Denek Bat Baiona who is my rival, who didn't promote by winning his league and was my opponent in my 9k tickets game has experienced no visible drops:
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/276707/arena.aspx



Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/8/2017 9:02:04 AM

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