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From: kasper7

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He only got 44 minutes one week...so you haven't really trained him for 3 full weeks. More like 2.75 weeks.

You are not looking at the correct week. I did not train JR the week you are talking about. If you look more carefully you will see that for 3 weeks he got 48+ as a SG and he did not get a pop-up in JR.

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From: Jason

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He only got 44 minutes one week...so you haven't really trained him for 3 full weeks. More like 2.75 weeks.

You are not looking at the correct week. I did not train JR the week you are talking about. If you look more carefully you will see that for 3 weeks he got 48+ as a SG and he did not get a pop-up in JR.


I also did not pay attention that you made your origonal comment 8 days ago. I was a little late :-) Sorry!

How many weeks did it take you to get your previous JR pop from him?

From: kasper7

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It took about 2 weeks... And I feel a bit suprised since he is only 22, I have a level 5 trainer, he has superstar potential so he has not reached his cap yet, and he has about the wright height for the JR skill. Is there any explanation?

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It took about 2 weeks... And I feel a bit suprised since he is only 22, I have a level 5 trainer, he has superstar potential so he has not reached his cap yet, and he has about the wright height for the JR skill. Is there any explanation?


If it took just 2 weeks to get that JR pop last time...the most likel explanation is that he popped a little early last time, and as a result, he just barely popped, mean his sub level was probably as low as it could be. Next time you train JR you are sure to get that pop. Good luck!

From: 7ton
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JR 101

JR training is not slow at all...if you exploit the elastic effect enough. No, not handling, it's OD that matters. It's very well documented in the chinese community. I have a trainee with 14 OD and he popped to 10 after 7 weeks of JS. And another trainee with 16 OD and he popped to 13 after 9 weeks of JS. (These are full pops since I trained JS in their last pops in JR and I never trained anymore JR) In my experience, that's roughly 2 weeks of single pos JR training. Both of my trainees are 20+. Their heights are 6'2'' and 6'6''. So height doesn't matter that much.

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I am not sure that I understand what you are trying ti say. You are saying that because you have good OD, you started training JS and you got a pop-up in JR after 7 and 9 weeks for each player!! So you believe that someone can pop with 2 weeks of single position training in JR. Am I correct?
So what is your explanation in my case? I have OD 11 and JR 9. Why didn't I pop after 3 weeks single pos JR training?

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Any one experienced in a single week a ID and OD pop i just saw a transfer listed player that poped in OD and ID weird huh ?
My bad i just saw there is mentioned that pressure trains ID

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From: 7ton

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I am not sure that I understand what you are trying ti say. You are saying that because you have good OD, you started training JS and you got a pop-up in JR after 7 and 9 weeks for each player!! So you believe that someone can pop with 2 weeks of single position training in JR. Am I correct?

Yes
So what is your explanation in my case? I have OD 11 and JR 9. Why didn't I pop after 3 weeks single pos JR training?

I don't know. It also sounds slow to me. But OD 11 is too low for a 6'3'' guy with superstar potential anyway. Try to get at least 14. In china people always train OD before JR and get consecutive JR pops.

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But if you have high JR already, does it speed up OD the same way?

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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