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in my opinion if you promote in Div3 you will be well placed for relegation. you have a deep roster, i agree, but the quality of your players doesn't seem so good as you think. in my division your team would probably finish with a 12-10 or 13-9 record in 4th-5th place in the conference. your stadium is as small as when you started, you only added a couple of hundreds places, lousy if compared to my 7k. if you get promotion you will probably awake from your dreams and face a bad surprise.

your stadium is as small as when you started, you only added a couple of hundreds places, lousy if compared to my 7k. if you get promotion you will probably awake from your dreams and face a bad surprise.

Ive spent in excess of 550K on stadium expansions

in my opinion if you promote in Div3 you will be well placed for relegation. you have a deep roster, i agree, but the quality of your players doesn't seem so good as you think.

Dont judge a roster by its weekly salary, my players have balance and my roster has depth plus Im also training.

Value for money players means that I can save and buy other players

My oldest player is currently 27 yo so the losing of skills through age is not a concern at the moment for me.

in my division your team would probably finish with a 12-10 or 13-9 record in 4th-5th place in the conference.

Irrelevant im competing in my league and will finish with a 14 to 8 record in either 2nd or 3rd place

if you get promotion you will probably awake from your dreams and face a bad surprise.

I think Ive been around Buzzerbeater long enough to have a fairly good understanding of the game

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 6/19/2014 8:49:14 PM

n my opinion if you promote in Div3 you will be well placed for relegation. you have a deep roster, i agree, but the quality of your players doesn't seem so good as you think. in my division your team would probably finish with a 12-10 or 13-9 record in 4th-5th place in the conference. your stadium is as small as when you started, you only added a couple of hundreds places, lousy if compared to my 7k. if you get promotion you will probably awake from your dreams and face a bad surprise.

In my opinion you'd be better off staying away from giving advice. His arena is 5759, he spent 571k on it (before his last expansion) and he made about 86k in gate receipts just recently. Your arena was 6500 until your last home game, you had spent 350k and you haven't cracked 64k revenues. I've had 75k revenues on average with a 5200 arena.

So it appears that some people fail to grasp basic concepts that should really be obvious to anyone such as:
a) There is a difference in quality in the way you can expand your arena arena and 5.5k seats may well be superior to 7k (which is so clearly the case between the two of you, because he balanced and you smartly went for an all-bleacher venue)
b) At this level setting the prices has a higher impact than the size of the arena itself. Looking at you selling out 2/3 type of seats all season long only tells you how incapable you are to set the prices right, yet you go around giving suggestions to others.

I don't want to wake you up mate, because I'm mean, but someone probably should.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/20/2014 6:09:01 PM

In my opinion you'd be better off staying away from giving advice. His arena is 5759, he spent 571k on it (before his last expansion) and he made about 86k in gate receipts just recently. Your arena was 6500 until your last home game, you had spent 350k and you haven't cracked 64k revenues. I've had 75k revenues on average with a 5200 arena.

Thank you for highlighting this to our learned friend.

I have invested in the stadium to a point where, any more investment would either result in empty seats or me having to drop the price to fill them.

Last gate receipt as you say was around 86K (just over 87k) and the one before was close to 91K.

I have invested just over 1.1 mill in youngish well rounded players, some of whom I have already sold for profit.

From experience when it comes to building a roster, the vital pieces are the cost efficient well rounded players who capably fill roles and because of their lower salaries enable you to buy your best couple of players.

Whilst I am experienced in the game it has been a while since i had a team in 4th division and as a result I initially did stuff up my ticket prices, which I learned from.

Reality is that whilst I have used a middle of the road strategy to position myself within reach of promotion, I believe that another team Team Answer3 II (276025) in my conference has used the same strategy as me, only a little better.

He has got the home court advantage over me in our 2 v 3 finals game and he has chosen to top up his roster in the last few weeks with some cheap oldies who I believe he has trained game shape with.

I am philosophically opposed to buying old aging players, which has probably hamstrung me a little, but all the best to those teams who did do this and as a result do manage to promote.

I would have quite enjoyed the chance to compete for the first Div 1 championship in Utopia in a couple of seasons time, but I now think that I have missed out on this opportunity



Last edited by Sid Vicious at 6/20/2014 8:39:25 PM

So promotions will happen in couple of weeks. We have still 80 leagues in Utopia - meaning that 160 teams from finals will be promoted. So all 80 league winners will be promoted regardless of success in playoffs. Congratulations for all league winners!!

League winners by win-loss ratio
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5 teams with 22-0
26 teams with 21-1
25 teams with 20-2
17 teams with 19-3
4 teams with 18-4
2 teams with 17-5
1 team with 16-6

League 2nd position by win-loss and scoring difference
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15 teams with 20-2
753,743,676,670,638,562,556,547,525,488,447,397,366,308
25 teams with 19-3 782,768,740,694,660,660,653,646,613,596,579,578,570,532,530,526,514,488,477,472,466,444,402,401,292
29 teams with 18-4
618,612,560,554,547,531,529,503,492,486,434,428,428,423,400,394,394,382,379,378,377,374,360,351,345,325,317,282,272
5 teams with 17-5
562,509,497,425,247
5 teams with 16-6
483,255,232,197,138
1 teams with 15-7

Depending on how many league winners and 2nd position teams will advance to finals, there is a chance that also some of league 3rd will get promoted.


League 3rd position by win-loss and scoring difference
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1 team with 20-2
11 teams with 19-3
744,743,671,638,592,583,533,449,439,417,400
27 teams with 18-4
767,740,735,574,570,549,525,515,508,498,474,440,440,428,417,412,399,389,355,353,350,349,349,315,315,302,297
23 teams with 17-5
594,513,493,452,447,446,432,420,416,403,400,378,375,368,359,350,341,337,286,281,277,247,224
12 teams with 16-6
576,496,479,430,420,404,342,333,305,282,267,11

Good luck all for playoffs!

First: Sorry for my bad english ...

I do not understand the list. In the League IV.32, Beetle team (276468), 16-6, 2nd place.

I'm not in the playoffs?

I hope you understand my question

Thanks for the clarification response.

Hi, the matches haven´t been created already. Don´t worry, you will play the POs (y)

You're the best, thanks for the quick reply.

I can be so complicated ...

First: Sorry for my bad english ...

I do not understand the list. In the League IV.32, Beetle team (276468), 16-6, 2nd place.

I'm not in the playoffs?

I hope you understand my question

Thanks for the clarification response.

Your ranking in your league is 4th. Both conferences are put into the same. Best win-loss and plus-minus is Prerov Lakes then Esportat BB, then Chileaders. Your are then 4th best.

It is clear that all finalists will be promoted. Rest of the teams are compared against each other based on league ranking. Those who are best ones (ranked 1st) have 100% sure promotion. Those who are 2nd in own league, have very good chance for promotion even without getting into finals! My guess is that quite many of those who are 3rd in own league will also get promotion, because so many 1st and 2nd ranked teams will also be in league finals.



Last edited by Codemasters at 6/22/2014 11:49:30 AM

Thanks fot your answer, i understand now what you mean.

I did not think about enough...