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Its an incredible debate and one where it is still obvious to me that if teams aren't farming players then they surely soon will be.

Why not impose an average salary cap? You cant own players 3-4 x greater than your average players salary. (just figures as an example)

This would end all speculation about who could be a farmer and who isnt. Are there really managers with 9x $2k players & a $150k one creaming themselves over the ownership of a NT player? I mean genuine managers?????

If they had a $150k star player merged in amongst 9 others that could actually play I would understand their excitement.

I'm still on the no farm teams side.

Somehow I am getting roped into what all the other posters have suggested. I agree that you cannot ban people just on suspicion or because they play poorly, I believe I even stated that earlier in the post. I never spoke of banning at all.

so how was your suggestion to avoid then?

Thats some for me so like the NT trainers who all have 20 teams, to byuout all NT players when they get elected like it sounded in the first post ;)

I sometimes have trouble with your meaning, and this is a good example. I hope you arent saying that I suggested all NT trainers had 20 teams. I did not say or mean anything remotely similar to this.

No the first one two posters in this thread mention, that nobody will do it and nearly all teams are multi accs from nt's and nt near persons.

The thing is, except for maybe Grubbs, none of our players come from farms, nor have I ever attempted to set up a farm or anything close to it.

My first priority is to be the EGM for BuzzerBeater - regardless of the implications for my team, the USA NT, or anything else in BB.

When the first trade happened, I was strongly in favor of allowing them as long as the sales were both proper.

That first trade was 2 USA NT players that went to teams that would no longer train those players, putting some pretty big hurt on us.

When I offer statements on issues such as this, it's strictly with the GM hat, not with an eye towards any personal interests.

Let the Italians, Spaniards, Germans have all of the farms they want as long as they follow the rules.


On a side note - farming has some serious downside, since Grubbs is so good he hardly, if ever, comes out of a game he plays, so he's almost always near 100 minutes a week, hurting game shape.

Take that for what you will.

On a side note - farming has some serious downside, since Grubbs is so good he hardly, if ever, comes out of a game he plays, so he's almost always near 100 minutes a week, hurting game shape.

a real farm won't to do that :)

No the first one two posters in this thread mention, that nobody will do it and nearly all teams are multi accs from nt's and nt near persons.

Ok cool (whew)

so how was your suggestion to avoid then?

Not sure, tricky situation. I think SuperflyGuy may be on the right track.

i believe this suggestion willlead to much more farming then it already is, because when you have an salary cap your centers will need a lot of of sideskills who nearly have no effect on salary but 4-5 off them will be better tehn one centerskill.

But to train them and keep them in shape, you have to play him out off position and when you play your best player who is an center on SG to give him outside shooting training and then try to manage that he don't gets more then 65 minutes - you won't play succesfull and orientated for team succes. BB-Charles who was mentioned as a farm here, plays Grubbs a lot, on the right position and wins his games from time to time.

Another point is, do you like to tell managers, that their player X is to good for the NT and that there will just weaker players - thats pretty curious and would make the nt a bit to a comedy.

I greatly appreciate your response. In retrospect I should not have addressed my post specifically to you as it then looked I was trying to point to you specifically. I apolgize if it seemed this way and assure you it wasnt my intention. Only the last part of my post was in anyway a response to you, the post would have been better suited to everybody.

The thing is, except for maybe Grubbs, none of our players come from farms, nor have I ever attempted to set up a farm or anything close to it.

Grubbs is on too good of a team, imo. I never took a second look there. With the limited information you can get from just skimming pages as a user the best a person poking around can do in this case is go 'hmmmmm'. There is no way to prove or say for sure anything. If there was an American player that caused me to go 'hmmm' it would probably be Boggs. Hmmm means nothing though, just discussing.

My first priority is to be the EGM for BuzzerBeater - regardless of the implications for my team, the USA NT, or anything else in BB.

I have always considered you a stand up guy. I will argue with the person who disagrees.

On a side note - farming has some serious downside, since Grubbs is so good he hardly, if ever, comes out of a game he plays, so he's almost always near 100 minutes a week, hurting game shape.

This is why I say he is on too good of a team. If you are a farm team, as opposed to a team that trains one position manages minutes and focuses on one player, you want to be out of the cup early and keep your star in good GS. This way you can log on every couple weeks to change training and hold your team. If you linger in the high IV to low III area financially you can continually support the one player and arouse little suspicion. Just discussing a theory concerning farm teams.

Take that for what you will.

Response appreciated, further discussion welcomed.

The thing is, except for maybe Grubbs, none of our players come from farms, nor have I ever attempted to set up a farm or anything close to it.

Common on, JuicePats, you're a fair minded, proactive GM...what do you say you ban the team Grubbs comes from and show how we feel about farm teams! :-)

Steve
Bruins

and i would say he even have multi accounts, he would say for testing propose but this is just as silly like the other explanations you hear all the day :)

i believe this suggestion willlead to much more farming then it already is, because when you have an salary cap your centers will need a lot of of sideskills who nearly have no effect on salary but 4-5 off them will be better tehn one centerskill.

But to train them and keep them in shape, you have to play him out off position and when you play your best player who is an center on SG to give him outside shooting training and then try to manage that he don't gets more then 65 minutes - you won't play succesfull and orientated for team succes. BB-Charles who was mentioned as a farm here, plays Grubbs a lot, on the right position and wins his games from time to time.

This is why the request of better training for SFs could be considered...
I don't agree with the salary cup idea,the limit is all you can pay to sustain the salary of a player,if you follow the rule
And I think that in the future,many centers traineers,will train more outside skill,as n reality happen(a player like Dwight Howard is yet very strong in inside skills,but lacks of passing,outside shooting and free throws skills which he's training a lot now)