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212354.540 in reply to 212354.536
Date: 10/1/2012 6:47:41 AM
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Why don't you even try to provide one reason why an idea is bad? Is it because you can't? All you do is spout dribble, as you would call it, and hurl insults. I don't care if you want to spew insults, but it just shows you are incapable of discussing issues with any intellectual substance in them. Use reason, not emotion, to explain why an idea is wrong.

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212354.541 in reply to 212354.536
Date: 10/1/2012 6:55:03 AM
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There's nothing intelligent about anything you've posted, so get down off your high horse, get out of your glass house and try living in the real world, instead of being a condescending and sanctimonious idiot


Again I know I shouldn't do this, but, I haven't seen a single counter-arguement from yourself, they are all "you are an idiot" posts. This whole thread would probably have died days ago, and spared the BB community if it wasn't for your repetitive inane comments .....

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212354.542 in reply to 212354.539
Date: 10/1/2012 6:59:55 AM
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Dunno whether its that great in theory.

Simple economics, resources are scarce. You can't just give everyone free everything, because you'd run out of stuff pretty quickly

And if everyone has the same money as everyone else, what incentive do I have to go be a good doctor, lawyer, whatever. I'd just bludge and freeload. Society would fall down pretty quickly.

Sounds pretty crap to me.

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212354.543 in reply to 212354.542
Date: 10/1/2012 7:21:29 AM
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Simple economics, resources are scarce.


lol this is why it is hard to argue against multiple opposing points. You say resources are scarce. Koop says we have enough resources for 100 billion people :P

And if everyone has the same money as everyone else, what incentive do I have to go be a good doctor, lawyer, whatever.


The incentive should come from passion. I would still happily be a doctor or lawyer because I found the subjects in those fields interesting when I studied them. People with passion for sports would still play I think. A lot of people do things with their life because they are passionate, despite the fact that their passion won't make them rich.

Yes, I realise that a lot of people would bludge and freeload. :P But that's why I said it is good in theory, but doesn't work in practice. Imagine if everyone went and worked instead of bludged and freeloaded. They could work in fields they are passionate about without worrying about financial obligations like whether they will meet their rent this week or not. Life would be awesome :D Perhaps you could simply make it a requirement to work in order to get the free stuff. You can work in any field you want, but you still need to meet the quota. I think that could drive people to work.

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212354.544 in reply to 212354.543
Date: 10/1/2012 7:29:56 AM
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We have enough resources for 100 billion people, if everyone consumes (alot) less. Regardless, resources aren't infinite, so if you hand out free stuff, things will eventually run out. That can't be disputed.

And to say it is good in theory is to completely ignore human nature. If I had the choice between going to work every day, or working a few days here and there and spending a bunch of time holidaying around the world, I know what I'd choose...

If everyone worked in fields they were passionate about, you'd have alot of female fashion designers/actresses and male budding AFL players/cricketers.

And making it a requirement that you must work to get free stuff doesn't exactly make it free stuff now, does it? ;)

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212354.545 in reply to 212354.540
Date: 10/1/2012 7:50:30 AM
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I learned long ago not to waste time arguing with idiots. I'm not going to get into a long winded debate about your 'ideas'. They're not ideas, they're ridiculous statements made by someone that has absolutely no grasp of reality. I don't need to 'prove' anything, and there's nothing intellectual about what you're posting.


And so what if some times an innocent person dies?


People will be able to live to 300 years old, and longer.


But as we illustrated earlier, sometimes people have to die for the greater good. If you were the 7 year old girl you said you would kill, then you wouldn't be thrilled about it, but at the end of the day killing the girl is the right thing to do.


Killing the 7 year old child is still the right thing to do


The right thing to do would be to kill the child.


In theory, yes we should execute billions.


A more practical solution might involve requiring a parenting license to have children, or some sort of forced sterilisation type situation.


IQ should be changed to 100 instead of 120, and height should be 4' instead of 6', and it shouldn't be based on race, only on ability. It might not happen in the next decade, or maybe not even in the next 50 years, but I'm almost certain it will happen within the next hundred.


But I realise that a human life isn't priceless.


If one innocent person has to die to ensure that thousands of murderers and rapists die as well, then it is an acceptable loss.


If you think that there is never a circumstance when an innocent person has to be sacrificed then it is you that is living in the fantasy world.


I don't need to 'discuss these issues with intellectual substance'. Any reasonable person can see how stupid these comments are.

For the sake of this thread, I'm not going to reply to you again. Not because I'm incapable of having a discussion, but because I'm choosing not to waste my time arguing with someone that has such a huge superiority complex.

If you truly believe that what you're posting are legitimate 'ideas', then good luck to you when you finally experience the real world. You'll need it.

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212354.546 in reply to 212354.544
Date: 10/1/2012 7:55:17 AM
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haha I don't think people would be happy consuming a lot less. I realise resources aren't infinite, but giving out free health care and free education is essentially giving out a service, rather than a limited resource. We already have pretty cheap health care and education in this country anyway, and it seems to be working quite well.

haha yes I was ignoring human nature. :) Yes, a lot of people would probably go on holidays around the world instead of work everyday. But I'm sure a system could be devised where you have to work a certain amount per week or per year in order to receive the benefits of living in society. Sure, in a technical sense, it isn't free stuff anymore, but I think it takes a lot of pressure off people which results in a happier society, a more efficient society, and a society void of poverty. :)

From: akuma

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212354.547 in reply to 212354.546
Date: 10/1/2012 8:36:51 PM
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I think this thread in general was a great read
lots of opinions from both sides - a great debate.

Just one thing I'd like to comment on - Matty1986 - your aggressiveness and lack of respect for Nakers opinions was pretty full on. Is that how you act in real life? Do you totally go off at someone when they say something you don't like?

Personally, I didn't really like Naker's ideas at all - they pretty much sum up what the worst type of society possible where the few are able to control the lives of the many. Ideally - this would be great if those few could be trusted with such great responsibility - but really, in human history - when has that ever happened? It's essentially why communism failed I believe.

But regardless Naker presented his thoughts and ideas as a topic for discussion - your comments i felt were meant to inflame, insult and attack. I really am an advocate of the saying - "if you don't have something constructive to say, just don't say anything at all."

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Date: 10/1/2012 8:45:08 PM
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+1, now hopefully this topic is done and we can move on.

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From: Leeroy

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212354.549 in reply to 212354.547
Date: 10/1/2012 9:54:15 PM
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Agree 100% with every word of your post.

Now that the debate is over lets talk about the PL!

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212354.550 in reply to 212354.549
Date: 10/2/2012 2:33:21 AM
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No I want to talk about how Misr beat us in the U21.

What a fail! *tsk tsk tsk*

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