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152075.543 in reply to 152075.532
Date: 8/22/2010 6:50:47 AM
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I cannot be sure to create certain budget if I want to make a market move,because I'm in dependence of the crazy market,without even have the possibility to save a little amount of money every week,absorbing the oscillations of the market

To create the budget I have to make weaker temporarily my team,and I have more possibilities to lose game playing in an overall competitive league(the last team of my conference has beaten the first of the other division yesterday (23043809)

I can be outbidden by users that have a surely higher cash flow than the mine every week,and this indipendetely by the skills of the manager(that could be good or bad) - ethical disdvantage -



These are things that every team in the BB world had to do,indipendetly from the amount of the money they have?
That's the question.It's not "only" easier,the fact that whout should be a system that create temporarily distortion in the market to allow everyone to reach the same level,is still in the same condition that it was 10 seasons ago(and in fact,trying to put a patch to a situation that was escaped by control,the BBS changed some seasons ago the Tv contract systm,but wasn't enough),it's a problem.
I don't care about the amount of the money,I care that the market should give the same possibilities and should require the same efforts to everyone.

You surely don't read all my post,because I said that the best solution would be if the teams of small countries quickly rise up their level,to have the same possibilties,and then see whoo is the best,in their country and all over the world....but you see this thing happen soon?












From: zyler

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152075.544 in reply to 152075.542
Date: 8/22/2010 6:52:21 AM
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another choice would be to go for a lv 1 trainer which will open up some more money for you salary cap wise and in a season or so's time fill that extra cap room giving you an advantage on court over managers still doing proper training.
yes you sacrifice training a young player that you could sell or keep , but thats what this game is about sacrifice something to win now or sacrifice winning now to build to win later.

YOU CANT HAVE IT ALL

you cant have great players with huge salaries (for your div) and still be running at a profit or be a power on the tl.
its not possible.

again THE ONLY WAY TO BE A POWER ON THE TL ONCE YOU HIT YOUR SALARY CAP IS TO BE RISKY AND MAKE SALES.

hopefully doing so will help you build a better team but that is the risk you take.


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152075.545 in reply to 152075.542
Date: 8/22/2010 7:08:15 AM
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the aussie has a squad salary total of 100k (which keeps him average)
the italian has a squad salary total of 320k (which keeps him average)

so overall the aussie gets 325k a week total
the italian gets 365k a week total


These numbers,also if they are not accurate(we earn 300k and we spend 290-300-310k,we doesn't have any weekly income,if we don't make some risky strategy) says a thing

If you put your money on the market,you will always beat the italian team.

This should allow you to reach fastly the cap,improving your team,winning game and so on.So you can have this temporarily advantage.How much time do you need to use this advanatge,if after 10 seasons the situation is the same?

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152075.546 in reply to 152075.545
Date: 8/22/2010 7:15:36 AM
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for gods sake its not an advantage , you dont have the profits because you have the great players how dont you get that!!!

and the reason we dont catch up as quick is because no one is going to rush to the cap when they dont need to , smart managers will get players that are good enough to win there league with as low salary as possible , theres no need for us to rush to the cap , but we are gradually moving towards it.

this does not make us bad managers , it makes us smart managers.

again how do you not get this.

IF YOUR TEAM IS AT ITS SALARY CAP OR VERY CLOSE TO IT YOU DO NOT REPEAT DO NOT NEED TO BE BUYING NEW PLAYERS ON THE TL.

the above numbers where an example , an example that proved what every other manager is trying to tell you.

you guys earn more money as it is then teams with the same record as you in smaller less competitive countries.

STOP ASKING FOR MORE MONEY AND BETTER MANAGE YOUR OWN TEAM AGAINST YOUR OWN DIV

From: zyler

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152075.548 in reply to 152075.547
Date: 8/22/2010 7:43:17 AM
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sorry.

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152075.549 in reply to 152075.542
Date: 8/22/2010 9:24:36 AM
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I will give my economy page information so we can compare high order teams for div3.
See if we can come to a solution :>

Can you smell what the Hobos are cooking... oh wait its just Roger. (18085274)
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152075.550 in reply to 152075.543
Date: 8/22/2010 10:08:22 AM
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So you want every single country to have the exact same ammount of active users, well that will not happen soon or ever and i don't see why it necessarily should . Honestly, deal with it, you do not compete against teams in Australian third division, both in game and market you only have to be better then other Italian teams who are in the same boat as you. This issue you are talking about is not economic, no economic "fix" would make Italy less competitve, you would still need to put much more time into the game than smaller country teams, you also get much more satisfaction from promoting or winning anything.

If you don't care about the money, i'm curious what exactly do you mean by creating temporary distortion in the market?

Last edited by Vysnia at 8/22/2010 10:08:43 AM

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152075.551 in reply to 152075.540
Date: 8/22/2010 10:54:57 AM
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I don't see why you need any more though. Not like you're going to buy more players.

If you go and check all my posts you'll see that I never asked for more money. I actually don't want more money... but wait, I am italian, so I MUST be whining and begging for more money :)

The problem I see is with the current market deflation. And it is a global problem, not related to my team.

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Date: 8/22/2010 11:00:04 AM
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AND YOUR ASKING FOR MORE MONEY ARE YOU KIDDING!!!

again and again.
I already replied to this here (152075.551).
Please stop putting in my mouth words I haven't said.

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152075.553 in reply to 152075.550
Date: 8/22/2010 12:21:57 PM
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We compete with teams all over the world on the market,because it is one and global,how can you deny this clear fact?
The system allow the small nations to reach the level of the best nation giving them the same incomes of the big countries,while they have less expenses to fight in their counry,giving them room to train their own player,and buying players on the market whithout be forced to temporarily weaken their team,losing game and money form arena incomes.This is a distorsion on the market,that should temporarily exist while they reach the same level of competitivity of the top country,surely related to the userbase
If in italy 1500 teams on 5000 have build so competitive teams to reach the cap,why in a X country,let's say australia,didn't exist 200-250 users able to build so competitive teams to reach the cap?
Till the gap in competitivity will not be closed,the distorsion on the market will still continue to exist,because with the deflation moment and the crazy obscillations of the market,if you have free cash money you are advantaged on the market

the point is,how many time we have to wait till the distorsion end.This situation exist from over 10 seasons,a time in which everyone can build a competitive team for their division(and middly the teams of small countries start from an higher division,so with more economical possibilities than a middly team of the big countriies).And from the words of many users of these country in this thread,they don't seem to need a quickly improvement in their country level of competition,so closing the gap and ending the distorsion against us by the actual economical system
so,ut's fair that we still continue to be disadvantaged on the amerket?what we should do,wait other 30 seasonsk?

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