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26712.545 in reply to 26712.544
Date: 2/10/2012 8:02:49 AM
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Regarding the INFO, thanks! [Both to you and to Foto].

Regarding the "mistake" I've made - you are right, I've used 10 players for this game, although I did set that player on "all of the three" (Starter, Backup and Reserve - SB&R) on a single position.

Regarding "reading the threads" - I cannot read every thread that had been published.
I am trying to read some from time to time, mainly at the Suggestion thread.
I have suggested to have some kind of an index (and sub-index) for repeating quesitons / subjects.
In case they where, all those repetitions (like mine) would have been "saved".

Regarding what I think is expected (at least in my POV):
1) I believe that a common user would expect that defining a single player as SB&R on a single position, especially when playing "Stricly follow depth chart", will lead to that player playing the full game (unless foul out or injured).
I think that the need of also having less than 10 players set to that game in order of having a full game is something expected to be on a game manual (In contradiction to which tactic is better for what and when , for example).

2) I believe that a user should get the option to choose how the SUBs will look like in a game, regardless on the number of players on the field. I believe that setting SB&R of a single position with a single player indicate enough, but if not, why not adding another field to the tactics that will define for the coach whether to keep a player on the field when the game is over (Garbage time), or even what to prefer - to win a game, or to train (the starter, or in general).

Anyhow, I've learnd my lesson.
Thanks for the information

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26712.546 in reply to 26712.545
Date: 2/10/2012 12:08:38 PM
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Forcing 48 mns on a player is an abuse, it wasn't meant to work that way.

There are lots of suggestions revolving around this.

I encourage you to read more of the old threads. This one is a wealth of information.
Many issues you bring up have been discussed in the past. I doesn't mean you shouldn't bring them up but by knowing all sides of an argument beforehand, the discussion can advance. Fresh views are welcome.

To search the site, use
site:www.buzzerbeater.com
after your key words in a search engine. It will narrow down the search to the BB domain, a better tool than the game search function :)

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26712.547 in reply to 26712.546
Date: 2/10/2012 7:20:20 PM
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Forcing 48 mns on a player is an abuse, it wasn't meant to work that way.
Abuse or not, as it can be forced to be executed, there is no reason why it cannot be executed without those not related definition of only 9 players.
A user who prefers to better train is player on a cost of a chance of losing a game should have that option.

In addition, I do not find it an abuse.
Here training are upon minutes on court, but on real BB most of it is not on court.
Due to that, it cannot be defined as "abusing the player". This is his practice time...
But that is not really an important argument or my main one...

There are lots of suggestions revolving around this.

I encourage you to read more of the old threads. This one is a wealth of information.
Many issues you bring up have been discussed in the past. I doesn't mean you shouldn't bring them up but by knowing all sides of an argument beforehand, the discussion can advance. Fresh views are welcome.

To search the site, use
site:www.buzzerbeater.com
after your key words in a search engine. It will narrow down the search to the BB domain, a better tool than the game search function :)
I (and others) may do that, but I guess I ususally won't.
To much fuss for finding whether it was brought up, and what had been the argument for and against.
In the worst case, the same argument will be repeated.

The only thing that may help here is an index of suggestions and a summary for any argument for and against (in few words).
That may be more user-freindly, and may be viewed before submitting a suggestion.

I know that it frustrates the old users to read the same suggestions (not nessecarily with the same arguments), but I guess that it will keep happening (by me or any new user). At least until a solution will be find for verifying whether a suggestion and its arguments had been already brought.

From: Rice
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26712.549 in reply to 26712.1
Date: 2/14/2012 10:15:34 AM
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Hi,

Referring to this game:
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/42967745/boxscore.aspx

I set F. Gaudin as my primary backup and reserve at C and PF, but i don't understand why he only played 1 minute the entire game, he didn't get injured.. I double checked my lineup by loading former match tactics and i confirmed that i put him as my primary backup and reserve at C and PF while citing "Strictly follow depth chart".

Please help, any idea what happened? Is it a bug? My minutes got screwed up due to this, i've done this for a few seasons and this has never happened to me..

Thanks!

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26712.550 in reply to 26712.549
Date: 2/14/2012 11:28:37 AM
TrenseRI
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It's weird, I agree. It shouldn't have happened like it did, but there is something that I think may have influenced the game engine to do so. Both players he was supposed to replace have a very high stamina. And I stress, this is not the way it's supposed to work in my view, but the high stamina may have meant that they were not tired and were not substituted because of that. Also, on occasion, it was a tight game. In such cases the coach often decides to keep the starters in. Those two reasons combined shouldn't have such a big impact yet somehow it happened. We will look at this issue again when we start fixing the GE.

From: Rice

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26712.551 in reply to 26712.550
Date: 2/16/2012 4:40:49 AM
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While i understand what you mean, this has never happened to me for the years i've been on buzzerbeater, using the same method from the start. I set someone as backup and reserve, in a close game they typically get 10-15 minutes only but when its a blow out they get 20-24 minutes.

This time i only got 1 minute out of my backup/reserve. Worse, its happening again in my game right now.. Im leading by 30 and the only player i have on the whole rotation is still sitting in the bench despite being set as reserve and backup at SG.

Is this happening to anybody else? Anybody know who i should talk to regarding this? This might just destroy my game shape and stamina before it gets fixed..

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26712.553 in reply to 26712.550
Date: 2/16/2012 5:27:34 AM
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This user (87525) is sure about the fact that he sent orders for this scrimmage. (44555349) (Standard Line-up used instead)
Would you mind checking it ?

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26712.554 in reply to 26712.553
Date: 2/16/2012 6:56:40 AM
TrenseRI
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Our records show that he didn't set any lineup for that game, hence his default lineup played.

@24Mamba: Looks like another possible issue with the GE, we will have to look into it when we start fixing GE issues. Luckily, your yesterday's game didn't have the same issue.

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26712.555 in reply to 26712.547
Date: 2/16/2012 12:50:08 PM
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Strictly + SB&R + 8 players and still not getting 48 minutes...
On the following game http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/42957412/boxscore.aspx, I've set two players to play Starter, Backup and Reserve (aka SB&R) at a single position (each at his own).
I've set the coach's strategy to be "Strictly follow depth chart", and used only 8 players for that game (meaning, signing only those 8 for the game).

Even now, only one of those two players got the 48 minutes expected to play at this scenario.
In addition to that the other player didn't get the 48 minutes, another player who had been set as a starter of another position, but did not been set to anything else, got also to play 48 minutes...[And here I even strongly preferred he'd play less].

Due to that, the other guy expected to play 48 minutes, played only 35, and combined he has less than 48 minutes this week at the positions I'm training...
In addition, the player that substitute him player combined 97 minutes (had 84 before that)...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 2/16/2012 1:04:23 PM

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