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you sure dont have any knowledge about basketball as our best player is neither of them but ömer aşık. he had an off night against greece but you will see him being a pau gasol type nba-star one day.

still you are talking nothing important but trash. tell me about this 24 second rule and the four second you are given to hit that 3-pointer. but who am i kidding, there is nothing to explain and most of you are under 15 years old children just like in turkey's national forums. anyone to write meaningful post are welcome.

you always be second!!!!!

greece is much better thna you and have more quality.......

the referees were with you and say whatever you want.......

pathetic answer. there is no need to argue anymore as it is obviously meaningless as your response.

My friend basket seems to be a quite fair sport..We do not care about the referees decision although it was right just because the mistake was done by the countimer...Although,turkey who has good team in this tournament but played tha whole game to the limit of foul..some of them gived some other not...About the quality front line of turkey i believe that we got the most talented ever center in europe(shorchianitis)and also an other talent who was sick to this game...(MVP to the previous U19 European champioship)..In difference Turkey got two stars(who were not in good condition,especially Hido is much better player than he played)that were very well defended by greece..All the other players are B class...Good players but not superstars..If you want to believe that you were better believe it so..but the whole world saw that we gifted the game to turkey an turkey was just inefficient to take it..

Greece 29 Wins - Turkey 20 Wins. And from 90' since now Greece 6 Wins - Turkey 1 Win. History shows that you are better for sure

your center always in 3 second but the refrees..

our future stars will also have a long Enes Kanter.

Check the way he plays....he is not allways in 3 seconds....
He moves out of the low post...even for half a second if he leaves the post then there is no 3 sec violation....
I'm a ref so i know the regulation pretty well i must say...
And about the extra 4 seconds that they gave us i think that it was a 24sec violation, as i said in a post earlier, and that turkey should be awarded the ball....But you got to admit that turkey also made a lot of fouls that referees didnt call....
Anyway the thing that i know from playing basketball is that a good team shouldnt blame it on the referees for losing a game but first on themselves...You had A LOT of chances for winning the game from our mistakes but you just didn't take the opportunity when you had to....
Turkey was on of my favorite teams in this eurobasket, but you can't go around telling everyone that you deserved the win...You didn't play better than us (both teams played crap basketball)...If you played better you would have won...Dont blame the referees for losing and start blaming the ones that are really responsible for your loss...

Ναι και τωρα εσυ περιμενεις κατανοηση και να καταλαβει.... τι να σου πω ? Βρε τσιταρε τον !! τρελανε τον!! καθεσαι και απαντας σοβαρα...Πες πχ οτι τις μεγαλες ομαδες τις ευνοουν οι διαιτητες γιατι τρεμουν τους παικταραδες τους ενω τις μικρες σκασιλα τους μικρες ειναι τι να κλ....? Σοβαρευτειτε και αστειευτειτε.....

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at least one sensible post. thanks.

i never meant we deserved the win, actually i said you totally deserved it with more activity on hustle plays like rebounding. all i said about the referees was that 24 second agreement which the ball was rewarded to greece and turned into a three pointer.i suppose you would agree if the ball was given to turkey, it was almost over. said that, i still think you deserved it way more, rebounding numbers tells all. referees can make mistakes, but it was hard to understand this desicion if it is not a clock fault as someone mentioned here. you might have an idea what was their thought about that 4 seconds added or what their punishment will be if they are wrong. weird thing is it was not talked much about in the international media.

thanks again for the reply. good luck in 2010.