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132117.55 in reply to 132117.47
Date: 3/11/2010 1:30:01 AM
Upsyndrome
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Thanks for your advise Wallace...

Hhmmm... "5* rating, 2* potential, A+, 19yr" That prospect is worthless trust me don't go for him...
any prospect under 3 balls that are 19yrs old you should stay away from.

You want to get 18yr old's with 3-5 stars so you can train them up and profit off them.
If you have a 4 star prospect with 4-5 potential (18yrs old) they are better then the 5 stars 2-3 ball potential prospects
Because they are easier to train.

do you want to gamble or go with the information you have (players scouted twice).

If you want to go with the players scouted twice. here's how i would rate them/ edit them on your list.

#1 -- 5* rating, 3* potential, A-, 19yr
#2 -- 4* rating, 4* potential, B, 19yr (but honestly 4 star rating, and he's 19 that's not great at all)

I would gamble and put the "5* rating (scouted once x 8 players)" before every one ells because getting 5 star prospects with 2 potential is horrible especially when their 19! the younger the better! and even the "5* rating, 3* potential, A-, 19yr" guy has lack luster qualities... he's 19 for one with an A- grade rating but he's the best out of the ones you've showed me.

By the way... The way the players box scores look have nothing to do with how good a player their going to be...
The player who scored 41 pts you were talking about... he's a horrible player put him close to last on your list!
2* rating, 2* potential, D+ ... that's really bad don't he may have scored good but that doesn't mean anything so don't go by how the player dose according to his Box score go by (Star's/Grade/Potential/ and how old he is)

Good luck on draft day Wallace! Hope my advise could help you.





Last edited by A-Dub at 3/11/2010 1:38:36 AM

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132117.56 in reply to 132117.55
Date: 3/11/2010 10:49:25 AM
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hi fella's,

got a question aswell here.

i scouted a guy with this info:

2 balls, D+, 18, 4 pot balls...

now usually, i take all the 1 and 2star guy's out, and i check them below.
after that, i take all 3 star guy's, who've been scouted twice, and don't have either a C+ or don't ahve 3 star rating, and i put them down aswell...

then i orden whatever i have left, first 18 year olds, then 19 year olds...

the question is, where do i fit this guy in? his boxscore:
SG 20 min played, 5-8 FG, 1-1 3FG, 1-1 FT, 1 OR, 4 TR, 3 Ast, 1 TO, 2 Stl, 2 BLK, 1 PF, 12p

his boxscore ain't bad at all... yet the only thing troubling me, is his 2 ball rating and D+ in skils rating...

any idea's what to do with a guy like that?

thx

Rev

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Date: 3/11/2010 10:57:51 AM
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Box scores can be very unreliable. I wouldn't trust it. If you have no one better than him then keep him up there and you could sell him due to his high potential.

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Date: 3/11/2010 11:28:57 AM
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I agree, box scores are not something to use as a tool in determining who to draft. They are pretty cool but there is no evidence that they actually mean anything.

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Date: 3/11/2010 12:29:14 PM
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its just one game... which tactic was used? who was his defender... but i agree. if he shoots 20-24 maybe he has no atrocious js ;-)

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Date: 3/11/2010 1:14:57 PM
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Sure 20-24 is nice, but in BB he could have gone 8-45 in the three previous games :)

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Date: 3/11/2010 1:21:34 PM
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I think that div 1 is getting in general much lower quality draftees than the lower. Thats my experience at least from Cyprus

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Date: 3/11/2010 3:17:46 PM
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I think that div 1 is getting in general much lower quality draftees than the lower. Thats my experience at least from Cyprus


i would be surprized about that... i think it's more than in comparison with the other player that Div 1 teams have, their drafts seems less good... ( or the one's you eyeball on the TL are jsut the top of the top drafts that are being sold off/saved by U21/NT)

i recall reading somewhere that each draftgroup has the same ammount of skills ( if you add all skills up to eachother...) but maybe, the draftee's in some divisions got more balanced out skills that in other division... i'd be surprized if the draftee's of Div 1 would be sell good that the other draftee's of the other divisions..

Rev

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Date: 3/12/2010 12:16:45 AM
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hi fella's,

got a question aswell here.

i scouted a guy with this info:

2 balls, D+, 18, 4 pot balls...

now usually, i take all the 1 and 2star guy's out, and i check them below.
after that, i take all 3 star guy's, who've been scouted twice, and don't have either a C+ or don't ahve 3 star rating, and i put them down aswell...

then i orden whatever i have left, first 18 year olds, then 19 year olds...

the question is, where do i fit this guy in? his boxscore:
SG 20 min played, 5-8 FG, 1-1 3FG, 1-1 FT, 1 OR, 4 TR, 3 Ast, 1 TO, 2 Stl, 2 BLK, 1 PF, 12p

his boxscore ain't bad at all... yet the only thing troubling me, is his 2 ball rating and D+ in skils rating...

any idea's what to do with a guy like that?

thx

Rev


Well Obviously, You well want to rank him higher then the "2/1 ball potential prospects" and maybe even some 3 star 3 potentials depending on their Grade (higher or lower to D+) ... I well try and evaluate your prospect to the best I can.

He's young and has 4 potential... that's his upside! and it's definitely worth putting him above any one under 3 star Potential or 2's star's with 3 potential.

On the down side he's a 2 star prospect with a D+ grade... that probably means his potential is going to be at the lowest possible for the 4 potential prospects (all-star)... Because the grade has some what of an effect on the potential in my opinion and resent draftee's. and yes he may have 4 potential but a 2 star athlete well also take longer to train up since he will have many lower skills. so keep that in consideration when you are placing him over other prospects in the "draft edit list"

And for the record... how the prospect's perform (remember it's Just ONE game!) in the box scores has nothing to do with the players skills/Potential... I've seen a 2 ball prospect with 1 potential pull off a 29 pt game and so on... but yet he was still an awful pick... people who pick by box score results often get disappointing results and a poor athlete to go with it =p

the best way I can explain is like this...
In a Scrimmage I had ...I started a PG with 2k salary and he's an awful all around player but yet he still had a 20 point game with 6 assist but that doesn't change the fact that he sucks lol ... It was just one game and he played well that game for what ever reason.

hope you make the right choices, Good luck Mod-Revo!




Last edited by A-Dub at 3/12/2010 12:32:37 AM

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Date: 3/12/2010 9:41:17 AM
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i've placed him at the 11 or 12 pick, after most 5 and 4 balls guy's in skills ( but who i haven't scouted a second time :( ) so it's gonna be a gamble... but if all 5star and 4 star guy's are gone, then he'll be a nice pick up. whats more, the others who haven't scouted him a second time, will most probably put him at the end of their lists... so chances are high that i'll get him at my second or even my 3rd pick... and to get him at the 3rd pick, that would be nice ^^

so i'll just go with it, and hope for the best.

thanks for the advise guy's.

Rev

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