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191983.55 in reply to 191983.53
Date: 7/28/2011 8:45:46 AM
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he won, but he didn't play against a team like VS. Well, at least not that good.

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191983.56 in reply to 191983.47
Date: 7/28/2011 8:58:31 AM
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"3. Ask Mark Cuban about the value of older players. Older players are valuable because of their experience. Why should this be devalued?"

This is a point that I will never agree with. Not with Mark Cuban's but with the context you mention it. As a scout I have put a lot of effort in trying to organize training and involving as many players in our program as I can. The idea is that the team will always be better with self-trained players than buying older ones. Now, seeing that it is easier to make results by buying old players (because training is much slower) I think many teams in the lower divisions will chhose to buy, rather than train, and what is sad and sad and sad... They will be right...

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191983.57 in reply to 191983.36
Date: 7/28/2011 9:06:06 AM
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Actually I changed my mind about cross-training. I don't like it that much anymore. I will tell you why.

I have a 20y old Superstar and I want him to play in NT. His potential is a bit low for NT, so I have to make a specialized player. In order to make that work, I have to choose which skill I don't want to train anymore, and I chose Passing (he's at Prolific already).
But in next two seasons of training it is possible that he pops in Passing anyway. This means that because of that pop in Passing, I have to give up at least 3 pops in DR and 2-3 in HA because Passing has a great effect potential wise. I don't want that! In this retrospective, my future trainees will all have to be Hall of Famers...not very good.

The best alternative I can think of is that we choose where should that 10% go to on weekly basis. Now THAT would be great. It doesn't matter if we can choose between limited number of options for secondary training; can you imagine you set OD training and as a secondary training you can choose DR+HA+SB or DR+HA+RB or SB+RB+HA?


Oh man, finally!

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191983.58 in reply to 191983.56
Date: 7/28/2011 9:45:45 AM
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Fair enough.

The idea is that the team will always be better with self-trained players than buying older ones


I don't really understand what you mean. The NT is better with self-trained players? The NT doesn't train players. Your team is better with self-trained players? I don't think this is or ever has been the case. Surely people will still train players. You can't help but train players in this game.

Oh, and training isn't much slower, really. In fact, players will receive the same amount of training, just 10% less in much better primary skills and 10% more in other areas.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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191983.59 in reply to 191983.58
Date: 7/28/2011 9:49:05 AM
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Having their own players in the team help a lot merchandising,so yeah,a team is better with self-trained players(with equal skills) because is richer and can substain better players

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191983.60 in reply to 191983.58
Date: 7/28/2011 9:56:50 AM
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I will just say this. If the BBs do not develop this game for the user base, it will die. I saw it happen to another online game that I played - where the developers made changes that they thought were good for the game. On the surface, they sounded like good ideas. Heck, they may have been wonderful ideas. But people hated them and left the game en masse. In the end, people get tired of changing strategies and adapting and eventually quit.

Remember the principle that the customer is always right. As someone else mentioned, people do not like change. Personally I think that if the developers wants to make changes like this, that they should explain them better and try to get end user buy in before they implement them. But that is just me.

In any event, I am very interested to see how this unfolds.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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191983.61 in reply to 191983.59
Date: 7/28/2011 10:00:33 AM
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True. My point was that you can't have a team of self-trained players that has equal skills to a team where you train some, sell some, and buy some. Not one that can advance up the ladder anyway.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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191983.62 in reply to 191983.60
Date: 7/28/2011 10:11:04 AM
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I, too, am interested to see how it unfolds.

I love change. I loved when Nirvana unplugged, when phones went cordless, when I quit my job and went around the world, etc. I think people eventually quit online games. I haven't lasted as long at any other online thing as I have in BB. Some day I'm sure I won't have time or energy or desire for this either.
It's a broken record suggesting that the developers explain things any other way than cryptically. You just have to embrace it or not. I choose to embrace it. Doesn't mean you have to.


Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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191983.63 in reply to 191983.62
Date: 7/28/2011 10:34:44 AM
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I think people eventually quit online games.


Oh yeah. The key turing point is when more people start to quit than join, which from my user count is what is starting to happen. Will we see it get to the point, like the other game that I played, where they stop telling us how many users are playing? We'll see. ;-)

I still do not really understand the point of being cryptic. Well, maybe I see some pluses but in a case like this, I see a lot of minuses. I have never had such a negative reaction to any change in BB as I have had to this one. I'm not sure if they completely thought this one through. Or if they did, they certainly could have worked on getting user buy-in in advance.

But hey, you're right, I am not the developer. It is their game to sink or swim with.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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191983.64 in reply to 191983.63
Date: 7/28/2011 10:45:42 AM
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2775 people signed up in the last week. Last week users were 52000+ . Right now 53000+.

I hope it swims.

I don't have any idea how this training change will work out. Maybe good maybe bad. I just think it is silly for people to get so bent out of shape about something they haven't even experienced yet. I'm looking forward to it, but I don't take it as seriously as a lot of people who post on the forums, I guess. I don't make any long-term plans. I have relied on my negligible knowledge of real life hoop to succeed in a tiny country.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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191983.65 in reply to 191983.64
Date: 7/28/2011 10:56:38 AM
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2775 people signed up in the last week. Last week users were 52000+ . Right now 53000+.


We're stuck at these numbers for ages now, and some countries are dying out already.

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