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It's weird, I agree. It shouldn't have happened like it did, but there is something that I think may have influenced the game engine to do so. Both players he was supposed to replace have a very high stamina. And I stress, this is not the way it's supposed to work in my view, but the high stamina may have meant that they were not tired and were not substituted because of that. Also, on occasion, it was a tight game. In such cases the coach often decides to keep the starters in. Those two reasons combined shouldn't have such a big impact yet somehow it happened. We will look at this issue again when we start fixing the GE.

While i understand what you mean, this has never happened to me for the years i've been on buzzerbeater, using the same method from the start. I set someone as backup and reserve, in a close game they typically get 10-15 minutes only but when its a blow out they get 20-24 minutes.

This time i only got 1 minute out of my backup/reserve. Worse, its happening again in my game right now.. Im leading by 30 and the only player i have on the whole rotation is still sitting in the bench despite being set as reserve and backup at SG.

Is this happening to anybody else? Anybody know who i should talk to regarding this? This might just destroy my game shape and stamina before it gets fixed..

This user (87525) is sure about the fact that he sent orders for this scrimmage. (44555349) (Standard Line-up used instead)
Would you mind checking it ?

Our records show that he didn't set any lineup for that game, hence his default lineup played.

@24Mamba: Looks like another possible issue with the GE, we will have to look into it when we start fixing GE issues. Luckily, your yesterday's game didn't have the same issue.

Strictly + SB&R + 8 players and still not getting 48 minutes...
On the following game http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/42957412/boxscore.aspx, I've set two players to play Starter, Backup and Reserve (aka SB&R) at a single position (each at his own).
I've set the coach's strategy to be "Strictly follow depth chart", and used only 8 players for that game (meaning, signing only those 8 for the game).

Even now, only one of those two players got the 48 minutes expected to play at this scenario.
In addition to that the other player didn't get the 48 minutes, another player who had been set as a starter of another position, but did not been set to anything else, got also to play 48 minutes...[And here I even strongly preferred he'd play less].

Due to that, the other guy expected to play 48 minutes, played only 35, and combined he has less than 48 minutes this week at the positions I'm training...
In addition, the player that substitute him player combined 97 minutes (had 84 before that)...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 2/16/2012 1:04:23 PM

Who was Mashiach set as the backup to, and who was the backup for van der Velden? When garbage time hits, the coach looks to put in every bench player he can and sit every starter, so if you don't strictly limit his choices perfectly, stuff like this will happen. I'm not sure why you'd put a player with 84 minutes already in your lineup at all, but that's not really important to figuring out why this happened.

Mashiach had not been set to any positions (SB or R). He only had been signed to the game.

Van der velden had been only the starter at that positions. Matas had been the Backup, and Blavia the Reserved.

To summarize all this strategic feature, it just don't work as supposed and expected to be.
Should I wait next time also for a full moon? :+)

Our records show that he didn't set any lineup for that game, hence his default lineup played.

Thanks.

Mashiach had not been set to any positions (SB or R). He only had been signed to the game.

Van der velden had been only the starter at that positions. Matas had been the Backup, and Blavia the Reserved.

To summarize all this strategic feature, it just don't work as supposed and expected to be.
Should I wait next time also for a full moon? :+)

Then it works precisely as it always had. When garbage time strikes, your coach wants to remove all your starters and put all your bench players in. If you have someone on your bench who is not a starter, he will come in as long as there is a starter for him to replace. If you had Mashiach as the backup to your PF, he would have replaced him instead, but since you didn't have him assigned as anyone's backup, it picked the position he'd best fit in that didn't already have a backup assigned.

If you want to get someone 48 minutes, you need to make sure they are starter, backup, and reserve, and that every player you have dressed is a starter or backup to some other position. Guys that are floating bench players will still replace the S+B+R guy.

Whether you think this should be how it works is another story. I know that there's a Suggestions forum somewhere, and I imagine that someone should be able to point you in that direction if necessary. ;) But it's not a bug so much as a somewhat silly but consistent application of the game logic in this case.

[edit: As far as van der Velden, you had your starting SF and C as his backup and reserve, so because it was garbage time, and because the coach won't bring a starter off the bench unless he has to in that scenario, he never came out. ]

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 2/16/2012 3:30:31 PM