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Date: 10/2/2012 5:46:10 AM
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I have tried to keep out of this one once it degnerated into abuse but I have to defend Plato. He postulated that the best government would be done by a wise philosopher king. THat is the doctor not the patient. Instead we have corrupt businessmen, incompetent bureaucrats and evil warlords leading the nations of the world. There is 0% chance of getting anything better.

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Date: 10/2/2012 6:14:33 AM
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There is also a second board of 21 people. These 21 people are all the top psychologists from the Australian Psychological Society. They would screen every single candidate for the primary board and have the ultimate power to approve or disprove a candidate. In other words, they choose who goes on the primary board. They would make sure that no one can have a criminal record, and that there is minimal, if any, traits of psychopathy.


Is it even possible to find 21 of these that are themselves normal stable people?

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Date: 10/2/2012 6:17:42 AM
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I've got a few issues with that kind of thing. But my main problem would be that these people are specialist in certain areas. I'm not sure whether having a policeman having a deciding vote on what, say, Australia's economic policy is, would be really all that beneficial.

Not that what we've got not is ideal, but personally I'd rather economists deciding on economic policy, doctors deciding on medical issues, policemen deciding on crime issues etc. After all, these people are the experts...

Overall, I'm a little confused by how getting a bunch of citizens to run the country is going to solve the issue that citizens don't know what is best for them and can't run a country

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damn lama, where was the CT 2nite!!!
dont save it for me O_o

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Hah, you'd probably beat me even if I did CT. I'm not that stupid

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Date: 10/2/2012 6:42:20 AM
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I have tried to keep out of this one once it degnerated into abuse but I have to defend Plato. He postulated that the best government would be done by a wise philosopher king. That is the doctor not the patient. Instead we have corrupt businessmen, incompetent bureaucrats and evil warlords leading the nations of the world. There is 0% chance of getting anything better.

Some excellent examples of leaders that people thought could would be good and could be controlled include Caligula, Idi Amin, Ho Chi Minh and Osama Bin Laden. Actually Bismark also thought he could control Hitler.

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Date: 10/2/2012 9:55:30 AM
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0%? I don't know about that. I have faith that there are some humble people out there that would make fantastic leaders. And could make fantastic leaders if we adopted a system that allowed them to rule. Democracy certainly isn't the answer.

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haha. I would hope we could find 21 considering we have a population of over 21 million. :D

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Surely a group of specialists in their fields are better than the democratic system we currently have. And seeing as they are from the top of their fields and are screened to avoid psychopaths and generally angry people, I think these people could easily come to the right decision. Even the policeman in regards to economic policy could simply defer to another expert's decision if he or she so wished. I feel these people would be far more qualified at understanding the problems encountered by ordinary members of society, and far more qualified at fixing these problems than the members of the House of Representatives or the Senate.

In relation to getting a bunch of citizens to run the country: These people are not ordinary citizens. They are the "elite" of those citizens so to speak. They are the more intelligent, more humble, and more generous. A doctor was once a patient, but grew to become so much more. In the same way, these board members were simply citizens once, but now they could be benevolent rulers.

I'm not suggesting that this is a perfect system by any means. But I do believe it is a far better system than we have now. And to be honest, I can't really think of a better system that the one I proposed.

I do understand what you mean regarding economists deciding economic policy, doctors deciding on medical policy etc, but the problem you run into there is you end up having too many chefs in the kitchen so to speak. And if we isolate policies like that, then it creates segregation and prevents policies from being compatible with each other. Many policies affect numerous fields, and thus I don't think it would work to separate economists from the doctors when making these policies :)

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Some excellent examples of leaders that people thought could would be good and could be controlled include Caligula, Idi Amin, Ho Chi Minh and Osama Bin Laden. Actually Bismark also thought he could control Hitler.


This is why I proposed that psychologists screen candidates. I don't believe any of those people you mentioned could have passed the psychological testing, and thus would never become members of the board.

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thank god 4 the [>>] button :)

is ne1 thinking they can get players in2 the allstar team this season?

i have a great chanceback in d2 & undefeated

xie is 2nd in league in 3s
3rd in pts/48mins
3rd in rating
4th in the whole league in blocks lol
10th in ast/trn
12th in fts
12th in steals
18th in ast

surely? could even be a mvp season...

hoping that willy, wang, szymon, rad or ofek also have a chance

what about all of ur guys?

we should have a fishbowl allstar team like we used 2 in the old days


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