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158188.56 in reply to 158188.53
Date: 10/11/2010 11:52:02 AM
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. Perhaps if NT managers had a more sophisticated training philosophy, players would be cheaper but more effective.

I really don't agree on this phrase.The secondaries are important,you had try to create player affordable for the managers because it means that they will have better shape and so on...
But there's a minimum in the primaries that a player had to reach to be effective in the international field
I was first scout and than big man responsible for the South African under 21 team in the past season,and in a so small country I had to fight against potential problems(there are few player with > all star potential in a country with 10-12 users every season),so I and my chief had to find a way to create the best player possible,and I am pretty sure that a large part of the Nt coaches and stuff all around the world make this work.But when we put on the field our triple 14 in inside skill with only decent secondaries,we had much better results than with his reserve with triple 10/11 and good secondaries
So,while the coach of an Nt had to understand the needs of the managers,they still have to ask to push over the limits the players on primaries,also if this caused a much greater expenses for the owners,because they need to have these players to obtain these results.You can close a gap of 3-4 levels in primaries with good secondaries,you can't colse a gap of 8-9-10 primaries against your adevrsaries


Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/11/2010 12:01:12 PM

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158188.57 in reply to 158188.55
Date: 10/11/2010 11:53:18 AM
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Let me know,I'm always curious to know these things ;D

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158188.58 in reply to 158188.57
Date: 10/11/2010 12:03:34 PM
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I'd be very surprised if the Shooting Guard didn't start taking 3 pointers when playing against a center that may often have inept or even lower outside defence. I'll try playing a SG this week at PF and see what happens, and then I'll try it next week at Center.

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Date: 10/11/2010 12:21:57 PM
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I'd be very surprised if the Shooting Guard didn't start taking 3 pointers when playing against a center that may often have inept or even lower outside defence. I'll try playing a SG this week at PF and see what happens, and then I'll try it next week at Center.

That would be right...But the SG will be in the position to drain 3pts if you put him on C and on PF position,or he will more probably play in the paint so losing occasions to shot from the outside(where he has the advantage over his defender)?That's the main reason why I have doubt about this thing

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158188.60 in reply to 158188.59
Date: 10/11/2010 12:34:48 PM
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hmm....I'll try it and find out. I think it would only work if the opponent plays a man to man defence though. Playing a SG at Center wouldn't work against a zone.

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Date: 10/11/2010 12:35:59 PM
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hmm....I'll try it and find out. I think it would only work if the opponent plays a man to man defence though. Playing a SG at Center wouldn't work against a zone.

Agreed

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Date: 10/11/2010 12:42:44 PM
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The mere fact that he would be a threat from 3pt territory would give him an relative advantage inside.
Combine great jumpshot & range, with decent driving & inside scoring, this will "keep the defense honest".
The defending center will have to close down on the shooter, and with low outside defense, will not be quick enough to prevent the shooter from driving all the way to the hoop.
Just imagine a play where you isolate someone like Ray Allen on Shaq at the 3pt line. If help defense is poor (or if other 4 players are good outside threats), Allen would get an easy lay-up/2 free-throws/an assist every time.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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158188.63 in reply to 158188.62
Date: 10/11/2010 12:48:44 PM
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That is why I think the first player is the better player. But I have no proof yet, so I'll try it out to confirm.

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Date: 10/11/2010 1:57:37 PM
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The mere fact that he would be a threat from 3pt territory would give him an relative advantage inside.
Combine great jumpshot & range, with decent driving & inside scoring, this will "keep the defense honest".
The defending center will have to close down on the shooter, and with low outside defense, will not be quick enough to prevent the shooter from driving all the way to the hoop.
Just imagine a play where you isolate someone like Ray Allen on Shaq at the 3pt line. If help defense is poor (or if other 4 players are good outside threats), Allen would get an easy lay-up/2 free-throws/an assist every time.

There are not physical skill in BB.BB's Ray Allen and BB's Shaq has the same speed.If the BB's Ray Allen try to get inside,he will be surely blocked by the BB's Shaq,no way he can score consistently playing inside

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158188.65 in reply to 158188.64
Date: 10/11/2010 2:11:25 PM
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sometimes i think, that a relation from the salary to the transfer prices would solve the problem. Because in this case the "real" best players, would become the best paid players so a center wouldn't get a lower value just because you trained him additional 5 skills.

But when i look at the TPE, i believe the implementation would become to buggy and difficult.

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Date: 10/11/2010 2:29:43 PM
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There are not physical skill in BB.BB's Ray Allen and BB's Shaq has the same speed.If the BB's Ray Allen try to get inside,he will be surely blocked by the BB's Shaq,no way he can score consistently playing inside

I don't know, I think Driving is effective against poor OD, and I'm not sure how much ID affects Driving.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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