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168997.56 in reply to 168997.55
Date: 1/12/2011 11:42:46 PM
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Question for everyone:

What are your specific and realistic goals for the national team during your two season tenure as NT coach?

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Date: 1/13/2011 12:58:59 AM
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Considering we will have HCA, my goal would be to advance directly to worlds by reaching the finals of the Americas. To be honest though, I really don't know how realistic this is. There are some teams in the Americas that are much better than us, including World Champions, Chile. However, as my backup goal, I would shoot to advance to the repechage and advance to worlds that way. I think it was a good idea to go to consolations this year, but you can't just do that every season. At some point, you have to risk it and go for it all. The team should be better now than 2 seasons ago as well, so we shouldn't have as much trouble in the Americas tourney as we did 2 seasons ago.

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168997.58 in reply to 168997.55
Date: 1/13/2011 1:24:00 AM
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Two questions for Future NBA...

1) I think that as long as you know what lineups to set how to scout your opponent and how to manage enthusiasm and how to pick players then i think that you should be able to attempt to become NT

Why (be specific please) should managers believe that you know how to scout an opponent, pick players and manage enthusiasm? You not only failed to promote out of Division IV last season but squeaked into the playoffs with a losing record (10-12) and then got demolished in the first round. Some managers are very quick learners, your record suggests that you're not one of these managers please explain why you think that you record is not indicative of your skills as a manager.




Second question: Much of the more specific discussions about player development and u21 and NT tactics happen on the off-site forum so that sensitive information is only available to Canadian managers. Details about opponents and ideas about to approach national team tactical decisions are also posted there. Why have you never bothered to join and read or participate in these crucial national team discussions?


1) I was trying to tank last season as i had found a gem in my draft list. but i did not get him and since i had gotten rid of alll my star players (exept tommy Saint-amand) that othe team a the advantage plus the GS hasnt been all that good either because i didnt really try to manage GS that playoff was more forced on me than not forced on me.
as for believing if i can scout an oponent, pick players and manage enthusiasm it is somethign i cannot really prove.

2)I cannot register for the offsite forum because of some previous affairs

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168997.59 in reply to 168997.58
Date: 1/13/2011 2:01:02 AM
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I am not running as a NT manager, but I love a good debate so will also answer some questions while asking other candidates, of course if its not a problem for you guys.

The most intriguing question that I heard so far is about cheerleaders:D, I would test them myself, thats a first. I would also take Futire's approach and pick 10 girls, 2 best at each position:D.

Ok, being serious.

What would you say is your biggest advantage over each candidate?

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168997.60 in reply to 168997.56
Date: 1/13/2011 8:26:11 AM
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What are your specific and realistic goals for the national team during your two season tenure as NT coach?


My goal is simply to continue to build and improve on what those before me did. Chris you had a great run and have put the team in a good place, I will look to continue on your solid ground work. As for actual goals I agree with Griffin in some ways, the team should have a realistic shot at qualifying for the worlds thru the repechage. The America's is going to be tough, but if possible advancing thru there would obviously be ideal.

Once the teams are all in place I will make a decision of whether to go for it in the Americas or look to position for the best shot thru the repechage. Obviously this plan could change at any given time based on the results, but I think it is really important to have a plan that considers alot of factors. As a realist I cannot see why we can make the worlds in the next two seasons, the team has talent and a few real quality guys moving up fast. All the while some of the other NT programs struggle with 'farms' and mon skilled monsters.

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168997.61 in reply to 168997.58
Date: 1/13/2011 8:28:37 AM
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2)I cannot register for the offsite forum because of some previous affairs


Care to explain?? We all know 'that you did not have sexual relations with that lady', so please fill us in. (Hope you are as old as me or the joke fails) :)

Do you see this as a problem for you? The off site forum is a way to communicate with other Canadian users and not have the info taken by other NT's. So not being able to use it may be a really big issue.

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168997.62 in reply to 168997.59
Date: 1/13/2011 8:30:33 AM
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What would you say is your biggest advantage over each candidate?


I have a longer name =D


serious part
I would probably be on the forums more often and id probably be more active.

P.S
plus for chearleaders( if we had them) i would just tell them to give the other teams star player a lap dance during the game. that should distrract him enough

Last edited by Future NBA Hall of famer at 1/13/2011 8:37:42 AM

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168997.63 in reply to 168997.56
Date: 1/13/2011 8:32:59 AM
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What are your specific and realistic goals for the national team during your two season tenure as NT coach?


my goal is to atleast improve our world rank by 1-2

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168997.64 in reply to 168997.61
Date: 1/13/2011 8:35:26 AM
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2)I cannot register for the offsite forum because of some previous affairs


Care to explain?? We all know 'that you did not have sexual relations with that lady', so please fill us in. (Hope you are as old as me or the joke fails) :)

Do you see this as a problem for you? The off site forum is a way to communicate with other Canadian users and not have the info taken by other NT's. So not being able to use it may be a really big issue.


Ill PM it to you and u can post it lol i dont know how to word it for the forums

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Date: 1/13/2011 9:43:47 AM
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What would you say is your biggest advantage over each candidate?


Experience. Period!

I have proven that I can win at every level, and developed players that qualify for the NT or U21 team. These things are a collection of a lot of time spent reading the forums, listening to others, mentoring, and breaking down ratings. My other advantage would be the relationships I have developed with the Canadian community. Having the ability to call on other experienced members of the community is a huge benefit and something that if need I will have a tremendous amount of success with.

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168997.66 in reply to 168997.64
Date: 1/13/2011 11:30:46 AM
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ugh... I am not sure if I should do this but I've suspected this since you first started posting on the public forums and I think I have enough circumstantial evidence to just come out and ask it:
Did you previously post under the name "shootingguardmagic?"

If the answer is yes then I would just like to remind everyone of two things:
1) Shootingguardmagic ran in the last u21 elections and offered to put Beanerz's "best player" on the team if Beanerz would drop out of the running and vote for shootingguardmagic.

2) Shootingguardmagic contacted other national team coaches offering to "spy" on the team by sending them our player's skills and our tactical information posted on the offsite forum. Here's my original post on the matter:


It's really unfortunate that my first act as NT manager is to have to make this post, but I think it's important that this is dealt with publicly and clearly as soon as possible.

I recently received a message from Wozz, the American NT coach, who informed me that on July 3rd he received the following message:

From:
Shootingguardmagic
Subject:
want me to spy?
Sent:
7/3/2010 11:56:21 AM

want me to spy on the canadian NT in the offsite forum? i can give u player stats etc..



Wozz is a stand up manager and declined the offer and messaged me about it. After consulting the outgoing Canadian manager and moderator of the offsite forum (Rip) and the u21 coach (Mogul) it was decided to ban shootingguardmagic from the offsite forum. We have no ability to level punishments on him in the game itself.

This is really, really unfortunate. It's always a risk that certain people may sign up for the offsite forum for immature reasons and undermine other people's hardwork and this appears to be such a case. There is the risk that posting skills and tactical information will result in info being leaked out but for now I plan on continue to post so that there can be community participation and so that other managers can share ideas and learn from each other. Unfortunately behavior like shootingguardmagic's endanger this sort of interaction and I think the community should be made aware of his bizarre decisions. So I am just requesting that people be honest and fair going forward and try to keep the info on the offsite forum underwraps.

Personally, I will not be offering him any advice, sharing ideas with him, listening to his "suggestions" or considering any of his players for any level of NT service and it would not be out of line for other managers to respond in a similar way. (of course it is unlikely that any of his players will come within striking distance of the u21 or NT any time soon)


Chris


Needless to say, if "Future NBA Hall of famer" is also "shootingguardmagic" it would be pretty questionable to elect him to the position of national team manager. If they are not the same person then I apologize for the confusion.

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