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haha whoops i didnt see i had made three copies of the message lol

and i was talking about Silo in case someone did not realise (idk)

but nah new account for me (if you've figured out who i was before) and i hope to have a new and better approach this time =)

Leeroy is no veteran. He isn't in the ABBL. He is a division III noob!. We the so called "insiders" should be praised for being so open. I assume that most of those PMS were abuse or from Crazy Australian and Fanny.

There's nothing wrong with you running.

It's the way in which you worded your speech.

There were plenty of other positive things you could have said to bolster your candidacy.

Instead you started throwing mud at those who hold a lot of respect in the Australian community.

You are yet to answer any questions posed in this debate thread on the direction you will take the team, your philosphies on training and tactics. All you've done is talk without backing it up.

I think if you had simply said "carry on the good work from the last few seasons", it wouldn't have rubbed anybody the wrong way at all.

sp because you have chosen not to partake in the Australian community at all until this point, you feel that you are an outsider and those that have contributed are in some kind of clique?

i have never ever received a BB-mail, a PM or had any discussion with a single member of this board about who i vote for to lead out nation, and i have voted in every single election since i joined.

how do i reach my vote? i read what the candidates say in their speeches and in the debates... there is a post full of questions directed towards 1 candidate here, that multiple other candidates have chosen to answer...

maybe try answering those as well, and you can prove to me that way you are deserving of my vote.

give us something solid, show us your experience. dont just give me "i played in american league for 8 seasons" because anyone can say that, prove to us your knowledge of the game, of training, mentoring, or what other ideas you may.

this isnt politics.. no need to slander others and make up rubbish... go for it on your merits...

good luck!

If i'm NT manager i wont just dismiss comments because i dont know who they are and i wont personally attack them or the validity of their comments like the current regime do

In keeping with this commitment, I personally would like to see you answer the questions already raised by managers (including myself) so that all interested in the Australian community could make a decision based on more than simply "I am not associated with those guys over there"

We have had the chance to read Leeroy's answers, can we have yours?

yes, you're absolutely right. i haven't been talking about the team direction because i've had to defend myself.

But here goes. If i was team manager, tactically, i would change offensive pace more for opponents. Back in season 3 i was mentored by Springfield drunkers, the first winner of B3 and he took the nigerian NT in season 3 to the title when he never had the better team but he knew the offensive pace tricks to the game.

For instance, in the Season 18 U21 Cup you've only played faster paced offenses. Using the NZ game as an example you lost to a weaker team because your offense was too slow, you didn't get up enough shots to win. Also, the NZ manager played the right tactics against a stronger opponent in slowing it down and limiting shots. Theres other tricks with team personnel you can use to slow down or speed up a game but i'm not giving away everything. Also, in the final if you lost a key player to injury it would've been better to change the pace of the game.

I'd also like to get more managers involved in the NT, even those that dont perhaps frequent the off-site forums that much. How, I'm not sure. But i'm up for any suggestions.

As far as players selections i'd put a higher premium on Rebounding. i dont think it was high enough and any skill that ends possessions are good. I'm not sure what training schedules past managers have given player managers but i'd need to look at them.

Incidentally, if you still dont believe that i've been playing since season 3 you can go to the Nigerian NT page, go to games and have a look at season 3 tournament. in any of those games you'll find a player named George Ekeh, he used to play for my team in the U.S., the spumante pistons. If you then take a look a he's player history you'll see i played a PL game against high school drop-outs, an aussie manager and he can verify that i'm the same person.

In conclusion, i have the experience and know the tactical nuances of the game to lead our team for the last little push to become champions.

Thanks for reading.

Interesting read.

Though I can't change the pace of a game during the game.....

They way you've structured your own team is questionable as well. Not really built for success in the long run is it?

Season 18...

Damn. We beat Hong Kong. Who cares about New Zealand.

Last edited by iwen at 5/19/2012 8:53:29 AM

i haven't been talking about the team direction because i've had to defend myself because the first thing I did was start attacking others.

More accurate now.

Right. It seems everyone is being a bit more reasonable now. If you really have this experience and are so savvy will you be willing to become part of the "team" even if you don't win? That is what Leeroy did and he has worked his way up. If you really have so much to offer then surely you would want to helpus out.

It is great to finally read some of your plans instead of insults, silo1978. Having just read your post I must admit that you might be right about chosen offenses in the past but I think it is very easy to select games played and pick out the tactical discrepencies.

Your points on pace are valid but again, it is easy to make comments on games already played. It is harder, I would suggest, to get the tactics spot on initially. I have, in my time in BB (since Season 14) voted for Iwen and have never regretted that decision. I now place my vote in Leeroy not because he is part of the 'succession plan' which he is, but because I have played against him, read his comments on the forums these past seasons and ultimately, I KNOW WHO HE AND HIS TEAM ARE. I think it is this fact alone that, in my eyes, precludes you from being voted in. Until a few days ago, I had not heard of your team or seen you active in any Aussie forums anywhere. This is important and I think you have underestimated the importance of having 'earned' the respect of the Aussie community.

The Aussie community needs to give their support to an Aussie they know and respect. I mean no offense, but I neither know nor respect you.

Leeroy has my vote.

Last edited by Mr J at 5/19/2012 9:05:06 AM

yeah you set team tactics at the start of the game iwen based on if you think your better, worse or the same as the other team.

As for my personal team. My tactics are spot on, the cattle aren't. i've made the final in Div III 4 of the last 5 seasons, but i like the league i'm in so i stay. If you look at the forums in our league its all very friendly and we dont have to deal with idiots. Infact, i think in one of the season we had this exact discussion.

NZ was an example of a tactical error. Hong Kong was a good win. I'm not saying you did a bad job, there's just differences in opinion based of what i've experienced in playing the game.

I dont really have any interest in being part of a succession plan. If i'm voted in it means you want my input in the team. I'll also help any other managers with their personal teams if they ask.