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From: shikago

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Date: 12/26/2012 2:59:07 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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It was a little over 200K and is near 195K.

Meant just the merchandise revenue. (for example... league average is only $50k)
Like... was wondering if you were maybe up near $100k in merchandise revenue. Even despite your record this season. Or conversely, if having drafted your own stars didn't help much & you were around the league average?

It's probably not a horrible idea investing in the draft this season. You'll get your first choice & quite possibly a decent 2nd round player. (Who knows, maybe even a lower skilled, high potential guy in round 3!) And like you said, there's the whole enjoyment aspect of it too.


But just in general: (not talking about your situation...)
I've definitely sided with not spending $ on the draft school of thought. (purely in terms of cost/benefit). Haven't looked in a very long time, but trainable draft picks were always winnable on the TL for even under $10k. With very decent draftees at under $50k. Sure, they weren't ATGs with all skills respectable & a $6k starting salary... But were players plenty sufficient for the vast majority of teams looking to train & keep a player. (even more so for d5,d4, & d3 teams). Of course the type of player you're hoping for would cost a fortune on the TL however!

Last edited by shikago at 12/26/2012 3:07:00 PM

From: shikago
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Date: 12/26/2012 3:16:36 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Wow, i pretty much wrote off my last game as a loss! Got away with all backups & less effort!!
Not even my top backup team... starting SG's injured so had to go 1 backup deeper. Plus backups weren't in optimal GS. So it's a pretty nice surprise. (The one week / year having a huge roster payed off!)

The negative:
Of course my d3 cup opponent threw their last game & just picked up a $55k guy in *proficient* GS. And will quite possibly CT me at their place. So now i need to waste enthusiasm & screw up minutes again. sigh...


(and i'm now retroactively mad that i didn't get to see an Alas vs. Grubbs matchup in my last game too. Really wanted to see that. So for totally screwing up the BB x-mas week for me... I'm declaring D3 team "Pigeon Boys" jagbag of the week!)

Last edited by shikago at 12/26/2012 3:20:16 PM

From: A-Dub

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Date: 1/5/2013 12:19:40 AM
Upsyndrome
IV.21
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Oh, my bad. At the start of the season it was at 69K, now it's at 54K and just recently 56K. It varies.

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
From: Lucas

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Date: 1/5/2013 3:38:04 PM
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With an all american team and a usual NT starter (that I also drafted) I've only gotten 100k merch once ever.

From: A-Dub

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Date: 1/5/2013 4:33:01 PM
Upsyndrome
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Wow. You gotta be sh*ting me! I know what type of team I'm going to aim for in a few seasons. That's Awesome. When Liu was promoted to the U21 team my merchandise went up. It was nice.


Edit: what was your average merchandise that season, though? At first I thought you meant 100K weekly. That would be nice.

Last edited by A-Dub at 1/5/2013 4:39:41 PM

"You will lose." -Ivan Drago
From: Lucas

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Date: 1/5/2013 5:56:39 PM
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If Tanner starts/plays a lot then I usually average 80-85K, but if he doesn't then I'm lucky to get 65-70K. It's definitely worth it to have player(s) on the U21/NT though, I mean that's still pretty much a free weekly 20-30k (league average merch: 50k).

But Coco gets to play Tanner at SF however much he wants every week. I get to play my "PF" Tanner at backup SF or PF and then another game 48 at PG. -_-
Luckily he's the 7'0 LeBron of BB haha.

From: shikago

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Date: 1/5/2013 6:12:23 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Oh, my bad. At the start of the season it was at 69K, now it's at 54K and just recently 56K. It varies.

hmm, so your drafted star players don't really help all that much... thought it might have more impact.
It would really add up if you had an entire team of drafted players however! Or even non-drafted Americans (like Kentucky has).


From: Lucas

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Date: 1/5/2013 6:45:22 PM
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Actually I drafted half my team (6/12 players).

Last edited by Lucas at 1/5/2013 6:46:12 PM

From: shikago

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Date: 1/5/2013 7:20:49 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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[oh wow, my bad. never even saw your posts from today when i replied! not sure how that even happened...!?!]

Actually I drafted half my team (6/12 players).

actually... 5 out of 6 of your $60k+ players aren't drafted by you! Really, I didn't bother to look at the rest of your team when I posted.


Edit: ah, ok. you're counting 4 scrubs in that #!
Of players that matter it's just Tanner & 1 non-scrub backup, right?

Last edited by shikago at 1/5/2013 7:25:56 PM

From: w_alloy
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Date: 1/5/2013 7:42:09 PM
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In my opinion merch income is one of the most overrated things in the game. My team should be about as bad as it gets, low salary, in a relegation fight, and only one American (who is a recent purchase). I've been making a bit over 40k/week. Ignoring the Cat's NT bonus (I'll get back to it), he's making about 25k per week more than me. Let's say roughly half that is due to him having a great record and more than double my salary. That leaves only a ~13k bonus for having an American roster with multiple self drafted players. This is pennies in D2, and not nearly enough to make up for ignoring 90% of the transfer market.

The NT bonus is one of the few times when the merch bonus can be worth it, but this is only available to a small number of owners, is not that good for NT bench players, and is almost never worth it in D3 or lower due to having half your salary/value tied up in one player. Even in D2 most NT starters are too expensive to make up for the merch bonus.

From: shikago

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Date: 1/5/2013 7:47:58 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
III.5
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If Tanner starts/plays a lot then I usually average 80-85K, but if he doesn't then I'm lucky to get 65-70K. It's definitely worth it to have player(s) on the U21/NT though, I mean that's still pretty much a free weekly 20-30k (league average merch: 50k).

But Coco gets to play Tanner at SF however much he wants every week. I get to play my "PF" Tanner at backup SF or PF and then another game 48 at PG. -_-
Luckily he's the 7'0 LeBron of BB haha.

Wow, that's crazy. So even with your all-American team & drafted American star... you *still* aren't making more merchandise $ than I am! In fact even less than me(!) Honestly I thought you'd be at $100k+ every week. Legitimately surprised.

Anyway I'm worried that you're online right now & even posting today too! Do you have some crazy 1-3-1 zone or other tactical magic in store for me?

edit--- fuuu i changed my settings at the last minute. didn't mean to submit. the 1 day i'm actually online at gametime... sadface. well GL & hopefully no injuries. (i probably won't be around to see it live) wish it could have been at my place instead!

Last edited by shikago at 1/5/2013 7:50:36 PM

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