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I don't get why they did that. Why not just FA everyone above 60 TSP? Teams will still have the same number of players, but since less high level players are available, not only will the price of these players go up, but top level teams will start looking at less skilled alternatives which would raise these players prices as well.

Also this new luxury tax could actually end up benefiting teams with the most money. Teams that currently have huge amounts of money (ie 30 million) may have a permanent advantage over other teams because the new tax could make it impossible for other teams to get that kind of money. The mega-rich teams could use some of their money to buy a team of world class players and excellent trainees to avoid the tax, but essentially, if you take into account the value of their assets (ie their players), they would have the same amount of money, as long as they didn't dramatically overpay or buy old, skill dropping players.

Yes O Bear, think you knocked it out of the park
Certainly my plan would be to invest in players
Of course that would be the plan for all bothered by tax and thus push those players to never be affordable to those that don't yet have money

How are you exactly penalized for getting relegated, except that obvious incoming loss, which is quite normal?

Most of the managers in higher division are not targeting players on the TL under 60k except as backups. If there is not a good supply of higher salary players, the price will increase drastically. If they can't find a player under 60k on the TL, they will buy the next best option which will drive the price up of the 30k-60k salary players that most DIII managers use as the starters. The chain reaction continues down the supply curve screwing the lower, inexperienced managers that were suppose to be helped.

What we don't know is if the increase in supply of players under 60k will be able to counteract the increase in demand. In addition, some type of hoarders taxes could possible result in hundreds of millions of TL spending as hoarders scramble to buy players before the tax goes into effect and an increase in the promotion bonus will add to that spending as well. More spending meets more competition for players, and higher prices.

What we don't know is if the increase in supply of players under 60k will be able to counteract the increase in demand.

To be more precise, we don't even know there will be any increase in supply of any players at all. Remember that at the start of last season the news made it sound like Marin was increasing the supply of TA's when he did just the opposite. Does anyone really believe he has seen the light now?

This whole thing could be fixed very simply, completely and with finality. Look, the guys playing the game as a financial exercise are having a great time accumulating millions. Marin is doing all he can to help them by rewarding "training" at any cost to any other strategy. The guys playing the game as a basketball sim are having a miserable time, and things get worse by the season. All Marin really needs to do is acknowledge the reality that we all know exists now, quit pretending this is a basketball sim any more, acknowledge that it has morphed into a financial exercise in which the commodity traded is fake basketball players, and "winning" is based on how many millions of dollars you can amass. The guys who want to keep playing the financial exercise will have it all their way, the guys who want a basketball sim can find one elsewhere, Marin and the owners can advertise and grow the game for what it really is, and everybody wins.

Most of the managers in higher division are not targeting players on the TL under 60k except as backups. If there is not a good supply of higher salary players, the price will increase drastically. If they can't find a player under 60k on the TL, they will buy the next best option which will drive the price up of the 30k-60k salary players that most DIII managers use as the starters. The chain reaction continues down the supply curve screwing the lower, inexperienced managers that were suppose to be helped.

What we don't know is if the increase in supply of players under 60k will be able to counteract the increase in demand. In addition, some type of hoarders taxes could possible result in hundreds of millions of TL spending as hoarders scramble to buy players before the tax goes into effect and an increase in the promotion bonus will add to that spending as well. More spending meets more competition for players, and higher prices.

I guess I don't actually realize how it was before in terms of the salary cap for FA's, but now, if I went bot, four of my starters would be too high in salary to hit the TL, so they'd retire? Same thing if I just flat out fired them? Dang. That seems weird. Seems like it will make those players much more valuable when they do get placed on the TL.

So what were you doing if not tanking? Those 10m couldn't magically appear in your budget. If you're collecting money for seasons, than you're tanking, that's at least how we in Serbia think of tanking, you don't have to relegate or have minimal salary. I have tanked in DI for several seasons with 200k+ weekly incomes.
Maybe the correct term is hoarding money, but it doesn't matter. If you're collecting money, you should be penalized, so that new managers would have a chance to catch up quicker.

thsoe millions mostly came from my previous attempt to go to highest division (didnt succed so sold trainnes). And while i was still quite competive in II.league , you cant tell me that its tanking. Yeah i`m planning (saving) some cash for the time my traines are ready to fight for real , so i can give them good teammated, and thats not hoarding-its long term planning.

I hope you at least trained some youngsters while tanking, but if you stayed at top i dont think it can be called tanking as you were planning your budget and players according, it was your strategy to make your team more competive in few seasons. It`s part of the game, if it would be easy to get to top division it wouldnt be so fun.From your text i come to conclusion - basically every top division is tanking? as they dont train that much so their incomes have to be with quite big + to afford staying at top season after season. I understand why top division teams think this is bad, because most of them run on weekly income not training.

Most of the managers in higher division are not targeting players on the TL under 60k except as backups. If there is not a good supply of higher salary players, the price will increase drastically. If they can't find a player under 60k on the TL, they will buy the next best option which will drive the price up of the 30k-60k salary players that most DIII managers use as the starters. The chain reaction continues down the supply curve screwing the lower, inexperienced managers that were suppose to be helped.

What we don't know is if the increase in supply of players under 60k will be able to counteract the increase in demand. In addition, some type of hoarders taxes could possible result in hundreds of millions of TL spending as hoarders scramble to buy players before the tax goes into effect and an increase in the promotion bonus will add to that spending as well. More spending meets more competition for players, and higher prices.

Yes and no....

Sure it screws them if they come in and try to instantly buy a team, but we know from years past new players would come in, buy 100K a week salary guys for their cup games, turn and sell them, etc. or use them until they drive themselves bankrupt.

I think it is new managers best interests to learn how to manage a team, managing a team consists of not just managing money, but also scouting players, developing players, and building a team.

if buying a team was all it took to win then Golden State shouldn't have won last year. But Golden State.... (what a concept), trained and developed several of their key players, managed their money, and made smart free agent moves where they got the players they wanted for a price they felt was fair.

Supply and Demand:
Demand only drives prices up if people keep paying the ridiculous prices.... ultimately demand goes down to a certain price point to maximize profit.

Being that most people play look inside (still), the player builds really really are not that drastically different from each other. I myself personally, on any of my stints here since Season 18, have never had a problem of finding a player that fit what I wanted that I couldn't eventually find at the price that I was willing to pay. Even now when I do a player search of players I have trained in the past that fall into the TSP >60 salary <60,000 range, where this "shortage of players, and inflation of prices, etc. is supposed to happen, that were retired because NOBODY BOUGHT THEM. Frankly, until there are 0 players in that range making way through to retirement now with all the other FAs to compete against, I don't see it as being a problem when its then the only range of players from FA.

As it stands now, Nothing is set in stone.
taxing the rich, also doesn't necessarily change things. In professional Baseball they have had the luxury tax for quite a while now... (starting in 2003 when ONLY the Yankees had to pay), Even the NBA has had a luxury tax. Frankly, it never hurt any of those teams from still being competitive and winning.

The better question to me (in my opinion) is not "how high will the tax be" but "what happens to the taxed money" does it just disappear completely? Does it get re-distributed to bad teams in lower leagues? Does it go to feed starving ex-ghana NT players? I don't know.

There is already a luxury tax in place in BB nowadays for teams who do not train players. Isn't it ironic that BB places a luxury tax for overspending teams and now they want to tax people who doesn't want to overspend also?

There is already a luxury tax in place in BB nowadays for teams who do not train players. Isn't it ironic that BB places a luxury tax for overspending teams and now they want to tax people who doesn't want to overspend also?

We do not know how this tax will look like. I expect this tax to hit teams, that have more than 20 million in the bank. That will hit like what .... a handful of teams? I don't know, you don't know and nobody else except the guy inside BB knows. We will see in a few months.

All people complaining and crying out loud, should have spoken up earlier and offered support/input/criticism for VARIOUS suggestions (including the money hoarding tax).