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I can feel another ballon' d'or for CR :D
After he scores a fraction of the goals Messi has in the league, with Morata being the best (most efficient) striker for Madrid, I highly doubt it.

At least Messi is clearly the best forward on his team and they have both Suarez and Neymar who are about on par with Ronaldo.


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Messi? I didn't saw him tonight, maybe tomorrow? I guess not..
Surely Ronaldo remembers him as he gets raped again and again by Messi in head to heads. Barcelona has simply played the best team in the competition earlier than Madrid, but that's simply luck of the draw.

Barcelona played with batter teams this season? Are you sure?

OK, in group stage Barca - City / Real - BVB.
Round of 16, Barca - PSG / Real - Napoli
Quarter finals Barca - Juve / Real - Bayern
Semi finals Real - Atletico / Barca get an big LCD to watch the game and the magician CR7.

This is where we hold them!
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Yes Barcelona had City and Real had Dortmund and finished SECOND in their group!!!! Despite great efforts by the referees they failed to beat heavyweights such as Legia Warsaw.

Napoli is like 10 points behind from Juve in Serie A. PSG is still in contention for the French title.

Real-Bayern sigh...yes we saw multiple offside goals, a nonexistent red card etc. Hard to claim Real wins that quarterfinal or Ronaldo scores any goal without bribing the referees.

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Hi, I'm a Real Madrid partner since I was 3 years old...

Both players are extraordinary, there is no reason to stay with one of them. Messi has more talent, i've never seen anything like it, but Cristiano is more complete, powerful and scorer.

Let's enjoy them, we will not always have such players in football.

Hala Madrid!

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You know what is the most funniest thing on earth?

A Barca fan complaining about referees :'D

Like City is batter then BVB, tell me their success last years in UCL and I will tell you what BVB made?
PSG is 2nd in France, Napoli is 3rd in Italy just 1 point to the 2nd place.

Yes yes, and few non-existent penalties for Bayern and etc :'D and Bayern offside goal at Bernabeu, if the referee was on his best that goal would not counted and we would not saw the extra time where Real scored their off goals.
You thought about that maybe?

I really can't argue with a Barcelona fan, no one on the planet can do it, so I will quit here, keep watching RM and CR7 in the UCL, road to the final, again, and again and again, 11 and counting!

Regards mate.

There will be haters.

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A Barca fan complaining about referees :'D
How did you come to the conclusion I'm a Barcelona fan? More straw mans so that you can avoid the facts? Smh.

Like City is batter then BVB, tell me their success last years in UCL and I will tell you what BVB made?
PSG is 2nd in France, Napoli is 3rd in Italy just 1 point to the 2nd place.
Opinion. SG is better than Napoli and Roma although they are close. Fact PSG is doing better in their league than Napoli.

Yes yes, and few non-existent penalties for Bayern and etc :'D and Bayern offside goal at Bernabeu, if the referee was on his best that goal would not counted and we would not saw the extra time where Real scored their off goals.
You thought about that maybe?
First game: the hand ball was a penalty. If a player hits the ball with the hand in the box while moving the arm towards the ball (or not removing the arm) that's an obvious penalty penalty unless he's really too close which wasn't the case with Carvajal. Real fans whining at the decision are really more like spoiled brats. The penalty was irrelevant anyway as Vidal shot it in the stands.

Second game: 4 minutes and first yellow for Vidal on a sanctionable foul (it was his first foul). Casemeiro at least 4 sancionable fouls and 0 yellow cards throughout the game (good enough for 2 red cards), including a blatant bodycheck and all sorts of dangerous tackles on Robben. At least they gave the obvious penalty although that should have been another yellow for Casemeiro as it was an obvious late tackle foul. Offside called on Lewandowski when he was 1 metre onside and was just alone against the keeper with the closest defender 5 metres away. Man, Ramos is often garbage in the middle, but he raises his hand and the referee just gives it to him every time. Second yellow to Vidal is purely ball and great acting by Asensio. The second Bayern goal looks good to me as it's debatable Lewandowski is ahead of the ball when it's touched last by Bayern. Real's requested a penalty, but it was a shoulder contact and lot leg contact as for Casemeiro and Robben, correctly not given.

First Rubaldo (as he's called in Italy, from rubare, to steal) goal: ONE metre offside. Second Rubaldo goal: also offside as he's clearly completely in front of the ball when the pass is made. Let's just say live TV English commentators were laughing at the shambolic pro-Real refereeing...

keep watching RM and CR7 in the UCL, road to the final, again, and again and again, 11 and counting!
I hope he does. Truly. And when he's level in ballon d'or and champions league titles with Messi, we can have a conversation if they are on the same planet.

There will be haters.
Indeed: Messi haters


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By the way,last night to first goal....Rubaldo was again talented....to score after an offside! Yes yes,it was an offside again! And no not at the second ball to him,but to first!

First you must know the rules of the game you watch.
1st cross, Ronaldo has nothing to do with it, he didn't touched the ball or had any effect on the game.
It was not an offside, simple as that. Football rules.

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To me that's a penalty: the defender moves the body towards the ball and does not remove the hand on time. So body goes right and arm goes left and the ball ends up hitting the arm and not the chest. You can be sure of this as the ball goes directly down instead of right as it would have happened if it hit the chest.

If he didn't move towards the ball you could make the case that it's not voluntary, but as it happens, he clearly tried to stop the ball, but he was too late to stop it with the chest, so he stopped it with the arm. In Italy and here that's a penalty, no question, and the referee was Italian.

Vidal shot the ball in the stands anyway so it did not affect the result in the end.



Also don't butcher Sheed's immortal words. If you don't know, you don't need to quote incorrectly.

Ball don't lie....

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