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From: testudo
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314820.57 in reply to 314820.1
Date: 5/10/2022 11:50:24 AM
Isca Centurions
EBBL
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Dartmoor Pumas
Originally it seemed like a bad idea because it sounded too broad and very subjective. The points you have clarified during the thread make it seem more sensible, and it has also made reporting easier for users.

It doesn't tackle the underlying causes that make this type of trading profitable, but I think it will work as a quick fix for this particular issue.

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Date: 5/10/2022 12:48:28 PM
Pruszcz All Stars
II.1
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Pruszcz ZSO 1 Team
just like a BBB Champion kozlik4 and other top teams...it's their way to make life easier :P

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Date: 5/10/2022 2:53:03 PM
Sindicato S.A.
II.1
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Perhaps this is too much interference in the managers' work. It's a delicate subject, many manager games succumb to market problems. However, I believe that efforts should be more focused on preventing multi-account cheating.

Almost everyone has made a bad investment during their managerial career.

But what I find really strange is that the game is concerned with "smart sales" at the same time that it rewards such a sale with the "day trader" achievement.

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314820.66 in reply to 314820.28
Date: 5/10/2022 7:25:24 PM
KS Goldena
PLK
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KS Golden Grizzlies
1. you can't name it DAY-TRAYDING. It's more or less whole-season trading. Day-trading was completely eliminated by high taxes after buying player.

2. Most of all you can't name it CHEATING. We use market rule of SUPPLY and DEMAND. We buy when supply is the biggest and sell when supply is almost 0, but still is demand (e.g. try to buy appriopriate player to train in the middle of season). Believe me, exist many users, who can't afford to be on TL in time of the biggest SUPPLY of youngsters (it's in fact one day) or user, who change strategy of team management in the middle of season. So DEMAND actually exist per whole season (not only newbies buy youngsters then).

By the way: Who train youngester from 0? Rather not top teams. So don't be surprise than teams from 3rd or 4th division buy youngsters from us because generally youngsters are mostly bought by 3rd/4th division teams.

E.g. apples (but not only) in time of picking them (in season) are the cheapest. Later on you need to pay more because price includes cost of storing etc. We also pay cost of storing players (theirs salaries+taxes) and we take all financial risks connected with this. We spend our time to buy, announce and sell them. I mean that in selling price are also our costs, what you don't count as I guess.

More and more users see profits in youngsters trayding, so competition is bigger and bigger and is more diffcult to make money on this. So, the market regulates it itself (market don't need your hand regulations). Youngsters are availble on market for whole season (we maintain supply for users demands). Draft gives a bit more profits for users because we increase demand and prices. What's wrong with this in fact?

By the way: in most cases players in time of selling are better than in day of buying. They get e.g. stamina training (users, who train players know how much time take stamina training) + e.g. improvements from gym effect.

Where you see cheating here?

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These players worth nothing,
Alonso, you are wrong...and probably this is the main reason why you have problem with this. I don't know why you claim this...maybe you simply aren't concious what gym lvl3 + good trainer (even not top) can make from such players (19yo, hof). Believe me, reaching TSP 150-160 (so NT level) is possible. I had player in NT, who started training as a 19yo player by trainers lvl5 and later even lvl4 +gym lvl3 and reached TSP 155 (could even more, but potential's limit stopped him).

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Why is it so popular in Poland?

We have very competitive league (quite symbolic is that was easier for me to win B3 than Polish league), so to survive on the top we need to look for additional incomes (usually B3 champions won eveything in theirs countries in the same season). This competitiveness of league also force us to build cheap, but strong (so not obvious) rosters. Anyway, possibilities are limited, because possibilities to earn money in BB are generally very limited.

Look, what possibilities on earn money we actually have in BB now?
1. The best: tanking. (boring and discouraging to play)
2. Far, far behind in beaing profitable: winning...but if you play in very competitive league, even if you have very strong team it's very difficult to win everything (BB don't enable to build wide and competetive rosters) so you need to focus on main target (to not lose league and cup) and incomes are limited then (lack of win in league costs around 600k per seaons, a Cup - next around 600k).

What's more? Actually, nothing.
3. Earning money on TL is almost completely eliminated by very high taxes (only youngsters tradying left, but earning on this it's not simple currently too).
4. Earning money on training: very difficult/not possible (especially if you want to win titles in the same time).
5. Draft lottery: a joke in top divisions.


Last edited by kozlik4 at 5/11/2022 4:42:10 AM

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