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381.565 in reply to 381.1
Date: 5/13/2008 3:57:16 PM
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Anyone have any idea how long training the entire team in JS or passing takes?

Thanks,

Steve
Bruins

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381.566 in reply to 381.565
Date: 5/22/2008 5:23:24 AM
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Is it possible to have a double pop in one week at one skill??

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381.567 in reply to 381.566
Date: 5/23/2008 1:38:58 PM
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That´s not possible my friend.

Only 2 pops in different level. I have seen 3 pops in one week too: jump shot, handling, driving.


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381.568 in reply to 381.567
Date: 5/23/2008 1:48:34 PM
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I have a rookie with that 3 pops right now :D

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381.569 in reply to 381.568
Date: 5/23/2008 1:54:10 PM
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Ohh that´s nice!! congratulations!

I´m a Center and Power Forward trainer so it´s hard to have 3 pops =(.

Maybe if I train Inside Shot: inside shot, inside defence and jump shoot =O

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Date: 5/23/2008 1:58:21 PM
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I also have 3 other guards that have only pops in DV

thats total of 6 pops in one week :D

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Date: 5/23/2008 10:14:51 PM
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I got a 21 year old French center with pops in ID and Shotblocking...while training ID with a level 9 trainer. Thhis would be week 3 pf his training.

From: Nakedzip

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Date: 5/23/2008 11:09:57 PM
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I don't know

From: wozzvt
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Date: 5/30/2008 11:52:06 AM
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So far, this thread has done a very nice job identifying what different types of training improve which skills, and how fast. There's another aspect of training that I don't think has really been addressed yet, namely, how much the trainee matters. That is, how much do age and potential effect training speed? When do players hit their potential caps? And so on...

So, here's what I propose. I'm going to start compiling training data for anyone who's interested. If we get enough people involved, we should very quickly be able to get some real results. With enough trainees, we can regress training factors against results and figure out exactly how much a trainee's characteristics affect his training.

I'll of course share the results with everyone who's been involved in this. A caveat, I will need age, height and potential as well as their current ratings. I don't ask for names, but height/age do make the players identifiable. I won't disclose this, but if you'd rather not tell me, no need to participate!


If you want to participate, BB-mail me the following info (I'll also check this thread if you'd prefer to post here, but again, I don't want people to worry about disclosing their players' ratings)

Per team:
Trainer level, Training type, Position trained

Per trained player (even if they had no pops!):
Age, Potential, Height
All pre-training skills (numerically, e.g. 7 6 6 5 7 5 3 3 2 4)
Which skills which popped

From: Bob Rock

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Date: 6/2/2008 8:33:12 AM
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I would like to point out that this thread, in my opinion, failed in giving quantitative information about the training time.

It is now common knowledge that OD (with pressure) trains only very slowly especially if compared to drive (in one on one) or with rebounds. You canot see this fact from this thread.

In order to improve the quality of the information it is necessary to allow only posts with a given format. For example:
Only players with two consecutive pops in the same skill.
trainer 7 or higher
only 18 or 19 years old.
We have also to specify the height of the player.

Otherwise we risk to generate confusion and we won't improve our knowledge.
No information is better than bad information.

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