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152075.567 in reply to 152075.566
Date: 8/22/2010 7:37:00 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
What do you expect seeing a III league Italian economy?
The big difference is in player salaries (even if I earn the same merchandising than you arg
The average player salaries in my division is 420k/week

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152075.568 in reply to 152075.567
Date: 8/23/2010 2:19:47 AM
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I just wish to see the similarities and differences.

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152075.569 in reply to 152075.567
Date: 8/23/2010 2:55:58 AM
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Well, I expressed what is the problem form my point of view yet but I am going to try to explain better now. And I am not going no speak aobut great or difficult terms. I t will be very simple.
This is a game, and a game is all about fun. It´s evident that, a a certain extent, people relates fun with the success of his/her team. At the same time you know that in order to make your team successfull you will need to make some sacrifices: basically I am speaking aobut time.
This is the great ecuation we are speaking about: you give your time and receive some fun. It´s evident that as much as more fun you receive giving instead the less time possible you are in the best possible situation. Well, on the other hand, if you give a lot of your time and receive very little fun instead the game is losing his purpose.
Ok, like I said before fun is related with the evolution of your team and the evolution of the time is related with the money, the incomes. When you began playing at the first time and are a newby, if you are smart enough you realise that you need money to do this things:
- bulid some seats for the arena.
- buy some trainees
- buy some veterans players for the non trained positions
So you decide to make money, this is, you decide you are going to train players and sell them until you have some money to began operating. And, of course, while you are training you are not going to be competitive because you will have always young and inexperienced players. Here is where the sacrifice that I exposed before enters. You are gonig to spend some time whitout being competitive only to do money. Your only goal week after wekk will be friday actualization of the training. Win or lose games is not your goal. You are only making money.
And this is the point where the difference began between countries. Suppose that we want to make 10 millons to say something.
If you are playing in Spain or Italy to make this 10 millions you will need to train and sell for example 2 generation of trainees. We are going to supose that we train players 3 seasons and sell them. Buy anothers trainees, train them for 3 seasons and sell them again. Well, we have done the sacrifice, we have the 10 million prize in the pocket and the have spent 6 seasons, this is 1 year and a half of our life.
Now the other option. You are playing in a country whit less users. You train your first generation of trainees, sell them and get 5 millions. At the same time you have played for this three seasons and in this ocuntry the game gives you a weekly net income of 100.00-300.000 that you don´t receive in Sapin or Italy. Taking 13-14 weeks per season and a structural profit of 200.000 weekly we have that this team has made about 7 millions in cash in this 3 seasons. He have now 12 millons. So he don´t need to train and sell yet the 2º generation of trainees that the Italian or Spanish manager needed to do.
He have benn playing now for 3 seasons (9 months) and have get the cash to began operating that the sapins/italian manager needed 18 months to get.
And this is the conclusion: fun and sacrifice. Like I said, you know that need to make some sacrifices to make money. You know you need money to be competitive. You know you need to be competitive to have fun.
But where is the limit? how much time are you going to lose trainig without play at the game to make money? 9 months like in some countries? 18 months like in Spain/Italy?
This is the conclusion I wanted to prove. There is a point where 9 months can be assumible and 18 months no. There is a limit that some countries are surpasing. Every player that began playing need to do a sacrifice but I feel that beginers in some countries are being asked to do too much. And maybe the could make the 9 months sacrifice but very very few are able to do the 18 months sacrifice. And if you don´t do the sacrifice you will not be competitive never and then the frustration arrives and people leaves the game.

Last edited by algope17 at 8/23/2010 2:59:08 AM

From: Rycka

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152075.572 in reply to 152075.571
Date: 8/23/2010 3:45:20 AM
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easy for you tell that, you are playing in III series (i''m in IV) and i'm not sure that your starting five can beat my bench players


this only means you're far more wealthier than him. it also means you did buy better players from global market.

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152075.573 in reply to 152075.566
Date: 8/23/2010 3:51:43 AM
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Baseline Weekly Economy
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 124 515


With a salary cup like your in my Division III i would surely forced to relegation


League Averages from Last Week
Expenses Revenue
Player Salaries: $ 109 396


In your IIIDivision with your salary cup, above the average of the league, you can be the first ...... is easy to win, be first and make money due to the low level of your league!
We would like your level of Division III is similar to that of Italian, Spanish and so on (and therefore also your salary cup) as quickly as possible, in order to fight the global market on equal terms, but as far did not happen you need to find a solution, don't you think? We have not reached the cap, because we like to play to the limit, but because (like everyone) we don't like being forced to relegation......

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152075.575 in reply to 152075.573
Date: 8/23/2010 4:08:04 AM
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Post your economy page.

Can you smell what the Hobos are cooking... oh wait its just Roger. (18085274)
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152075.576 in reply to 152075.472
Date: 8/23/2010 4:08:13 AM
MightyMice
III.3
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
CrazyCrabs
So what's the problem? You are leader in your division


that should prove that I am not talking because I don't understand game mechanism, but because I do ;)

of course, if others cannot compete against my team, that's good ;)

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152075.577 in reply to 152075.475
Date: 8/23/2010 4:10:14 AM
MightyMice
III.3
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495495
Second Team:
CrazyCrabs
the reason he cant do this for the millionth time is he and his div has hit the salary cap.

how are you not getting this.


I would like ALL the III divisions would hit the salary cap. that would mean that I should not fight to buy an average player at crazy price because somebody from other countries can do that. It happened already when BB's decided to limit seats, so THERE is an actual problem. There was about seats, there is about balancing incomes/expenses. I do like proposal by trb about it.

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