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From: CrazyEye

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Date: 9/29/2010 6:26:11 PM
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assuming the height factor is constant like inn your example, even this is equal ;)

From: CrazyEye

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Well, its not constant though, depending on what skills you train. Sure height factor is probably constant when comparing training outside defense to training 1v1, but when comparing training OD to training ID, the height factor isnt constant. Thus, generally speaking, I think the order you train relative to how long it trains only really matters on players getting trained inside and outside, and doing the opposite of your players height first (inside if short, outside if tall) will probably lead to faster training when its all said and done.


no, i am telling you, when training takes 10% longer when you are 18, and ten percent longer when you are 29 there is no difference if you train it first or late(depending you have a training plan till his 29 birthday) in training speed.

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Date: 9/30/2010 4:46:46 AM
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Well, its not constant though, depending on what skills you train. Sure height factor is probably constant when comparing training outside defense to training 1v1, but when comparing training OD to training ID, the height factor isnt constant. Thus, generally speaking, I think the order you train relative to how long it trains only really matters on players getting trained inside and outside, and doing the opposite of your players height first (inside if short, outside if tall) will probably lead to faster training when its all said and done.


no, i am telling you, when training takes 10% longer when you are 18, and ten percent longer when you are 29 there is no difference if you train it first or late(depending you have a training plan till his 29 birthday) in training speed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage#Percentage_increa...

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158094.61 in reply to 158094.60
Date: 9/30/2010 5:13:24 AM
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Karren, i know percentage math ;) And i know that i am right, and i know you can not create an example, where i am not right. Count in training weeks, you don't get any extra ;)

maybe you should read and understand it.

But for reddaddy, who at least understand the first step.

a= normal Skill training 18y k= konstant handicap for size

a * k = b

now factor y represents the age factor
a*k*y = b *y

Now imagine a skill who takes without age factor the same time then b, so if have no effect. like you find out before.

it is equal what you train first, it is the same like with longer training periods, as long as the player don't grow or shrink and making k not constant in age.

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Date: 9/30/2010 6:13:15 AM
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Count in training weeks, you don't get any extra ;)

yeah
10% of 3 (weeks) is much different from 10% of 5 (weeks) and from 10% of 2 (weeks)

If 1 vs1 pass from 2 to 3 weeks,and Od pass from 2 to 4 weeks,the 10% of 3 is less than 10% of 4

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Date: 9/30/2010 6:22:45 AM
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Count in training weeks, you don't get any extra ;)

yeah
10% of 3 (weeks) is much different from 10% of 5 (weeks) and from 10% of 2 (weeks)

If 1 vs1 pass from 2 to 3 weeks,and Od pass from 2 to 4 weeks,the 10% of 3 is less than 10% of 4


i train 14 weeks a season ;) So if you finish training 1 to 1 i will, use the other weeks the Season also :) Great tactic, isn't it.

Is your target only to make 5 skill up each season(and then putting in gs train), you maybe right because you could get trouble to achieve it when the player is 35, so you should train them the fast skills and not the slow one ;) So you still get 14 weeks, without a handicap and 100% training that are the values you should looking for.

Why is it equal that a pop will longer plenty of examples in this thread shopuld show it to you idiot proof, even with lot more drastic differences then the real BB world which should make it lot worse after your theory.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/30/2010 6:35:21 AM

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Date: 9/30/2010 6:38:01 AM
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Count in training weeks, you don't get any extra ;)

yeah
10% of 3 (weeks) is much different from 10% of 5 (weeks) and from 10% of 2 (weeks)

If 1 vs1 pass from 2 to 3 weeks,and Od pass from 2 to 4 weeks,the 10% of 3 is less than 10% of 4


i train 14 weeks a season ;) So if you finish training 1 to 1 i will, use the other weeks the Season also :) Great tactic, isn't it.

FT?Stamina?Doesn't count nothing?
Use 1 weeks for stamina and 1 weeks for FT in a season and make again the counts ;D


Last edited by Steve Karenn at 9/30/2010 6:38:45 AM

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Date: 9/30/2010 6:41:30 AM
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i excluded, age independent training everytime ;) if you have a aining plan over several season, it could be advantages to train with four spot instead of 6(or 2 instead of 3), and making the age independent stuff when the players are older in terms of speed.

But when you train "slower" training first, instead of faster one you will reach the target at the exact same time like the guy who did the faster training first the only difference is that you have a more constant rate of skillups which is maybe psychogically more motivating.

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Date: 9/30/2010 6:41:46 AM
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What is this debate about again?
Not everyone trains team training.

Can you smell what the Hobos are cooking... oh wait its just Roger. (18085274)
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