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203621.57 in reply to 203621.56
Date: 12/1/2011 9:38:48 AM
Kitakyushu
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yeah...No hard feelings. All is well...
Btw it is funny if you lose in the second round of the CUp to the last three times winner of the championship the attendance does drop

I also think they should have something in the fan survey for strength of opponent who you lose to in the cup( like for every week the team you lose to in the cup stays in the cup your fans should be less angry), but that is one for the suggestion page.

My next homegame(next Tuesday) is against another playoff team and I will be 8-1 when we play, plus on a two game win streak, so I will see if it jumps back up. I still think the computer gives to much weight to the game before..but like everybody says...Win and they will come!!!

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203621.59 in reply to 203621.49
Date: 12/1/2011 10:48:10 AM
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Well there are economic issues of the game that need to be fixed, certainly.

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203621.60 in reply to 203621.59
Date: 12/1/2011 11:36:36 AM
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Woah. Everyone just needs to make like EPMD and chill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGisre9xNU

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203621.63 in reply to 203621.57
Date: 12/1/2011 9:07:30 PM
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Please feel free to continue the flame war now.

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203621.64 in reply to 203621.63
Date: 12/1/2011 11:41:26 PM
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As the game is now, i think it doesnt take strength of opponent (country rank) in to consideration on the fan survey which affects your attendence.

What makes people play around with the cup games is knowing that the main punishment for losing in the cup is the loss of cup revenue. You beat a bot by 20, the fans survey just sees win.

What would be nice is if an upset of a team ranked 3/4 spots ahead of you caused a spike in revenue.
It would also be nice if the fan survey reflected WHO you lost to and not only that you had a disappointing cup run.

The cup draw is random. Beating 6 5th division opponents is not as difficult as playing a top 5 team in your country to a 5 point loss.

When an underdog barely loses to a strong team, that should actually spike revenue in my opinion.

I think if the game were to reward close losses and punish blow outs,

1) you would have fewer teams tanking.
(you should not be making big money JUST because you are in the first division. if your point differential is worst in the league, you shouldnt make still be making 500k a game. Take that incentive out of the game with tanking teams getting big money and you would have teams fighting for the MONEY)

2) you would have underdog teams considering the CT more often.

(just because you feel you cant win, you should still have incentive to challenge. In too many leagues, the game is a mere formality. If i know playing the top team to within 10 point is considered more than a 50 point loss, im going to try. If they are the same, I like many others are thinking about training.)

When i play a team in the cup that says "managed my a computer player", it treats that win the same as a win over a top 5 team in the country.

The revenues for games should me smoother. on a gradual ascent, a gradual decent or more or less even. If you have a good team, revenues for he game should be more so determine by the home team, not the visitor. I could see slight decrease based on opponent, but if you are averaging 480k per game, on a weak game after a bad lost, you should at worst see 440/450.

On the other hand, if you just had a historic win or an upset, why shouldnt your revenue spike upwards for on game? If i beat the number 1 team in the country, why shouldnt my next home game set a record?

I see what Kitakyushu is trying to say.

We should be able to predict these gate receipts within 25k + or -. when its more than that, that make it hard to "manage" a team.

Somebody let me a hold a no. 2 pencil cause they testin' me.
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203621.65 in reply to 203621.64
Date: 12/2/2011 5:07:17 AM
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Take that incentive out of the game with tanking teams getting big money and you would have teams fighting for the MONEY
Do you know what happens to teams that tank? They relegate and get a lot less income. I played in Estonian top league last season (just promoted). I tryed to win games, managed to win 5 games. Yes the money was good in the early stages, but I had to lower prices every price change oportunity. I had highest income of 555k and that had dropped to 472k in my last home game + I had dropped prices twise that season, to get more growd to show up. My first income in divII was 256k. That's a big drop, don't you think? Getting back up is really hard. You can see demotion and promotion history of Estonia. A lot of the teams think the challenge is too hard and they quit.
You guys are in Japan with 41 users. Guys botting in top league and you complain about income fluctuation? Really??? Half of the league has crappy players, that's why your income suffers more when you have just lost and divIII team comes to play against you in your home (as a top league game).
If i know playing the top team to within 10 point is considered more than a 50 point loss, im going to try.
Do you know what the difference is? If you lose your games by 50 points instead of someone who loses by 10 points. When the season ends and you have the exactly same win loss record. The guy who has lost by 10 points will get that 7-th spot and has a chance to stay in the league, while you get relegated.
About the cup. Like in real life. Noone remembers who you lost against (after a week or two), what they remember is that you lost in that round. If you keep winning against weaker opponents, your survey stays around 3-3,5. If you reach the round you are expected to reach the survey goes up. Nobody cares who you are playing, they expect you to win.
Like I said the more you win in a row the better your attendance is the same with losing (you will lose more near the seasons end if you have a losing record).
We should be able to predict these gate receipts within 25k + or -. when its more than that, that make it hard to "manage" a team.
You can predict the difference with a win or a loss previous you last home game. Like I said before if you want solid income (it does not matter win or loss before your home game), lower your arena prices. This way the fluctuation is not that big (you can even set them so low, that you make the same money every game). If you want to maximize the arena income, you need to evaluate your schedule and set the right prices. There is no doubt even with a fluctuation of + - 75k, you make more money than with prices that fill your arena every time.
Seriously guys L2P...

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203621.67 in reply to 203621.66
Date: 12/2/2011 7:06:25 PM
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it take how many round u get into the cup and the score difference of the last game played

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