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I don't know

So far, this thread has done a very nice job identifying what different types of training improve which skills, and how fast. There's another aspect of training that I don't think has really been addressed yet, namely, how much the trainee matters. That is, how much do age and potential effect training speed? When do players hit their potential caps? And so on...

So, here's what I propose. I'm going to start compiling training data for anyone who's interested. If we get enough people involved, we should very quickly be able to get some real results. With enough trainees, we can regress training factors against results and figure out exactly how much a trainee's characteristics affect his training.

I'll of course share the results with everyone who's been involved in this. A caveat, I will need age, height and potential as well as their current ratings. I don't ask for names, but height/age do make the players identifiable. I won't disclose this, but if you'd rather not tell me, no need to participate!


If you want to participate, BB-mail me the following info (I'll also check this thread if you'd prefer to post here, but again, I don't want people to worry about disclosing their players' ratings)

Per team:
Trainer level, Training type, Position trained

Per trained player (even if they had no pops!):
Age, Potential, Height
All pre-training skills (numerically, e.g. 7 6 6 5 7 5 3 3 2 4)
Which skills which popped

I would like to point out that this thread, in my opinion, failed in giving quantitative information about the training time.

It is now common knowledge that OD (with pressure) trains only very slowly especially if compared to drive (in one on one) or with rebounds. You canot see this fact from this thread.

In order to improve the quality of the information it is necessary to allow only posts with a given format. For example:
Only players with two consecutive pops in the same skill.
trainer 7 or higher
only 18 or 19 years old.
We have also to specify the height of the player.

Otherwise we risk to generate confusion and we won't improve our knowledge.
No information is better than bad information.

jump range, how long and what position need to train?

;-)

my questoin please, answer somebody!

This is not the thread for this.

It is now common knowledge that OD (with pressure) trains only very slowly especially if compared to drive (in one on one) or with rebounds.

I've actually been asking around to get info on OD training. Recently a top 20yo guard of mine trained:

2 weeks PG/SG pressure and 1 week PG pressure (8 trainer) and hasn't popped. Concerned he's hit his all-star potential soft cap, based partially on the info from this thread.

ouch - thats not good to read... i was banking on giving a few of my boys 1-2 more levels....sounds like it may not be possible or be painfully slow...

ID training
trainer 9-10
for 19-20 y old player level 6 potencial 3 weeks
for 24 y l:6 potencial 4-5 weeks
for 19 y l:6 player with less than 48 min per week4-5 weeks

add on:
trained 3 positions 3/4/5 all the time

Last edited by ..tizu.. at 6/3/2008 12:02:26 PM